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okay good evening folks welcome to our
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second meeting for october
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and uh we'll get the show going
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okay good evening and welcome to the
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regular meeting of the council of the
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city of long beach held tuesday october
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20th 2020
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at 7 p.m weather roll call council
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members lurie president
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councilmember mandel president
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councilmember treston
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president vice president mcginnis
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president
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president bendo present let the record
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indicate the presence of city manager
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donald gaiden corporation council simone
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freeman will have a salute to the flag
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councilman delaurie will you please lead
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us pleasure
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hands over heart i pledge allegiance
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to the flag of the united states of
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america
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and to the republic for which it stands
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one nation
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under god indivisible with liberty and
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justice
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for all
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all right thank you uh so why don't we
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uh start with the city managers report
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uh good evening everyone um to start off
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my report i have commissioner mirando
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good evening can you hear me yes okay
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so uh the city manager asked me to
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report on two items tonight
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uh first is on the potential sale for
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the
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garage property on long beach boulevard
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and as part of that we're looking at
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our transfer station as a place to
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relocate uh we've engaged the burka and
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bartolucci to do a
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uh phase one environmental assessment
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for the site
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and that evaluation will be done
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under the requirements of the american
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standards testing method guidance
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document
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e1527-13 and
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with the appropriate inquiry
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requirements
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in order to complete that phase one they
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will be doing a
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information and document review with
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federal state and local environmental
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database search
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i'll be looking at the fire insurance
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maps aerial photography
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environmental liens and local regulatory
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agency telephone inquiries and foil
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requests
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site inspection will include checking
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for uh any existing storage tanks weight
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stock waste storage areas
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any kind of old transformers drainage
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systems uh
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soil distress vegetation and any kind of
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irregular
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topography uh i've spoke today to them
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we visit the po
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and uh this assessment should be done
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for us by november 6 which will help us
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uh proceed to the next step if we so
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choose to
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relocate the garage there and that's
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item one item two is just a quick update
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on
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edwards boulevard project uh the
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contractor has started his mobilization
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uh bringing in equipment and materials
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and
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the end of this week we'll be starting
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on the drainage portion of the project
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which is the passive drainage system
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that will go in the grass islands
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so it's not drainage that you'll see
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you'll just see basins but they'll be
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very large perforated pipes in the
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ground to take to take ground water
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this project on edwards boulevard and
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coordination with the project that'll be
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coming up shortly on national boulevard
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we'll now have the two main accesses
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down to our board from
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to our boardwalk area from the main uh
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main part of the city uh
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completely redone and will be two nice
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gateways
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down to that portion of the city so
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unless there's any questions that's
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really
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the short report i have tonight uh
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just a quick one john uh in terms of
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doing the uh
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the assessment on the garage property
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uh since while we're at it are they
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gonna do one on the transfer
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yard as well since we probably need to
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know the condition of that or we'll just
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do that
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later that's absolutely we're actually
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doing the
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environment assessment on the transfer
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station property where we would relocate
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the garage
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we are not going to do a environmental
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one on the garage itself
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that would be up to any person who fills
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out an rfp and determines that it might
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uh actually secure the property it would
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be up to the buyer to do that at the
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garage okay
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okay that's fine um
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all right that's all i had anybody else
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got any questions for john
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okay thanks john you're welcome
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the next person speaking is gabriella
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and she is going to talk about
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why so many residents are seeing an
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increase in their water bills
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donna could you could you please uh let
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me know
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uh gabriella's title please
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hello
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yes can you tell your title for the
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water department please
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um supervisor of water billing thank you
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okay you can start go ahead um
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i think it's just come up a lot that you
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know there's an
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increase in the water sewer bills um
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and it's kind of caused concern amongst
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a lot of people but
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it's really boiled down to just
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summertime usage because this is a
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billing cycle that covers
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consumption from the beginning of june
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to the beginning of september
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it is normal to see a decent increase
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during the october billing cycle
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um so this is something that happens
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every single year it's
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not something really out of the ordinary
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there may be a little extra usage due to
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clovid
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um if people are home during the
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pandemic more but
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there is not really cause for concern as
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far as
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something being wrong with the water
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bills which i think has come up
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um or an increase in the prices or
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anything like that
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thank you does anyone have any questions
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um gabriella mike delore was it
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has anybody ever called that
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um was uncovered that they actually had
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a leak
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or it's you just can't determine that
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no sure of course there are people that
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have leaks um if there's something
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abnormally high you know i can't reach
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out to people during the month
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that we do the meter readings which
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would have been like in september
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if i see something that's unusually high
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i
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try and reach out to a resident to let
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them know that there might be something
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going on and
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yes there are times that it could be due
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to a leak however i will say
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that more frequently during this billing
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cycle a lot of
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extra usage is because of the summertime
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month
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thank you
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anyone else got any questions
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no thank you gabriella okay thank you
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gabriella
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okay next we have mr mcnally
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good evening everybody just a few quick
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items that the city manager asked me to
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speak on
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uh number one wanted to reiterate what
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was announced at the working meeting
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this past
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thursday that hours for the boardwalk in
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the beach
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uh the restrictions thereof have been
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lifted
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um so we are back to the boardwalk and
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the beach being open until 11
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p.m for anyone who wishes to still be
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there at 11 pm
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uh those were all part of an executive
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order
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related to covid so if the situation on
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the ground warns it in the future
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that obviously could be reinstated uh
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and just so everyone is aware uh
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with respect to covid throughout almost
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the entire supper months our
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seven day rolling single day average so
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smoothed out average over a seven day
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period four
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number of positive cases detected within
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the city's boundaries
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for a single day hover anywhere between
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half of the confirmed case or positive
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test case to one
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for the past three weeks i would say or
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two weeks
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we're now over two confirmed cases a day
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on our
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seven-day rolling average so that's by
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no means a spike
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it's nowhere near where we were in the
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springtime um
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but the numbers are starting to nudge
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the way upwards
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that's not the metric that the state
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necessarily uses they use
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positivity rate so all of those tested
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what percentage of those tested
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have tested positive but we don't have
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access to that data
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so this is really the only data that we
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have on our level to really keep an eye
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out
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so we will continue to remind our
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residents to wear masks social distance
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stay home when you can and wash your
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hands thoroughly
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and frequently number two that city
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manager asked me to speak about was the
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bike lanes on broadway
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they started doing some of the
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preliminary work for
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really just restriping and replacing the
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the bike lane that existed on
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both the north and south side of
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broadway
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they started that preliminary work but
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we are also doing
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some uh resurfacing on certain stretches
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of broadway so we're working to
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coordinate those two projects so that
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we're not putting down bike lanes and
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then repaving over them
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the departments between the police
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department and dpw and street
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maintenance are doing a good job with
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that coordination
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we anticipate that within two weeks all
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of the resurfacing projects will be done
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and the dedicated bike lane will be
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reinstalled and re-striped on broadway
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and that does include some sharings but
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they're doing the dedicated bi-plane
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with
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uh full stripes both on the north side
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and the south side of broadway
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the third announcement to make was as of
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i want to say around 10 30 a.m today
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we have successfully put out an rfp for
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electronic beach past sales so
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we're we're looking for thank you karen
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even though you're muted your enthusiasm
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left right off
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uh we're looking for a response um from
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responsible parties within the next
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month or so we left it i think general
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enough so that we could get a variety of
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solutions pitch to us because there's
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quite frankly not that many companies
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out there that do this so we didn't want
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to make it so restrictive
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uh that would be boxing out potential
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vendors
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uh so that's exciting and we're hoping
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to
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really sign a contract if everything
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goes according to plan sometime
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early in the new year and lastly just to
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remind
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everybody that our collaboration and
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partnership with
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the chamber of commerce and the arts
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council for beyond the beach our
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city-wide fall celebration is this
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weekend from friday saturday sunday
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we've got over 30 houses that have
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signed up for the house decorating
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contest
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and over 50 businesses that have either
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signed up for
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storefront decoration or to offer uh
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discounts or incentives for their
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respective businesses so we've got
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really good buy-in for our first year we
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think it's going to be really fun
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weather
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a really fun you know event we're
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praying for good weather
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um and you know look forward to this
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being the start of a really good
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tradition moving forward
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so those are my four items any questions
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uh yeah for the beyond the beach uh
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the rumor was there was going to be a
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map online so people
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would be able to know what businesses
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and
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were participating what houses would
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being decorated and stuff
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how would people find that you bet so
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that's going to be both on the city's
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website
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and on the chambers website we have a
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call tomorrow but i anticipate it going
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live
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no later than thursday i've already seen
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the drafts of it it's going to be
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either a pdf picture that you can access
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or
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there's a google map version of it so
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you can just bring it up on your phone
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and as you're traversing the city
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you can see where the next closest house
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or business is that's participating in
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the event
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okay and just so people are clear
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this is sort of like a halloween
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celebration thing people are going to be
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decorating their houses for halloween
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um and some people are really kind of
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taking this thing to the
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to the to the extreme that's that's the
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hope and that's what we're going for
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like i said we have 30
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homeowner entries or you know
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residential entries
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i've seen a couple of them in my travels
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already and there are some really good
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ones out there
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and again this is this is a tradition
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that we hope grows over the years
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but also you know brings a little fun in
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what's been a rather difficult summer
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and helps drive a little bit of business
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to our local you know commerce
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uh for because they've obviously
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experienced a rather difficult summer as
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well so hopefully giving them a little
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bit of boost in the arm heading into the
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winter
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okay great anybody else got any
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questions for john
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um i just want to say what uh you know
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to john and to the chamber
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um really appreciate the city
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partnership with the chamber
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to come up with new and innovative ideas
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for um
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for businesses here and for the
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residents i thought it was there's a lot
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of hard work that's going on beyond
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behind the scenes because i see all the
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emails
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um so i just want want everyone to know
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it's really appreciated and
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it doesn't go unnoticed so thank you
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very much thank you for that the the
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chamber and the arts council have really
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done
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an outstanding job you know these are
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these are volunteer organizations and
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the chamber is taking on a
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yeoman's portion of this work uh we
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should note obviously that their website
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is the long beachchamber.com
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and that's where all of the event
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information is and that's you know where
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the map will go up as well in addition
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to
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our facebook page and our website thanks
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thanks to everyone yeah i'm john and i
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did the website the information that's
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put out there
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by the chamber and and members and web
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designers whoever
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they did a fabulous job and i could say
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there's a
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must have been a lot of work that went
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into doing this you know
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very detailed now abs
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absolutely and again a lion shared a bit
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is done by the chamber
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um in conjunction with the arts council
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and the city played its role but
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um hats off to them they really made
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this happen and did you know vast
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majority of the work and they are all
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volunteer board members but they all
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dove right into this
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um so kudos to them
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thank you okay who's in the batter's box
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ah commissioner ragona okay
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hi good evening everybody can you hear
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me yes yep
15:45
still the same as the phone number
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i'm sorry no i'm asking dave a question
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because there's a phone number
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is that scott that's me i was uh booted
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off so i'm on by phone
15:57
okay
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sorry sorry commissioner please continue
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no no problem um the city manager asked
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me to speak about a topic which has come
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across my desk
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numerous times in the last week and um
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and i'll be brief
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however it's uh it's important to a lot
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of our residents and
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it involves bicycles so mr mcnally uh
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touched on it earlier
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in regards to the bike lanes which are
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very important to our residents
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and we have uh secured a grant through
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um patty bourne thank you and tyler over
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an economic development
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um working with them to restripe the
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bike lanes
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uh along broadway broadway is probably
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the
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not probably it is the best um
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location in the city to have our bike
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lanes
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it runs through a significant part of
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the town
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to our city it runs from new york avenue
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down to maple
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um uninterrupted and so we
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we started striping and we're
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coordinating with public works
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um as uh john miranda said earlier
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they're uh doing overlay in asheville's
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overlay
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uh off from long beach boulevard to
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roosevelt boulevard
17:14
um right now so we're working with them
17:18
as far as putting down the striping um
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currently we're putting shadows down and
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then we'll be striping the whole bike
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lane
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in accordance with the uh uh the uniform
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guard
17:30
for uh for traffic uh
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direction that we need to do um
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i've reached out to our local um bicycle
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enthusiasts who are
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experts and who are of great help to us
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and we'll be coordinating with them as
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we progress over the next two weeks
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doing our bicycle lanes from new york to
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maple
17:52
both north and south of um broadway
17:56
on both sides it's uh it's something
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that
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we need and that our residents want so
18:02
as far as that goes
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we should be done in approximately two
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weeks if everything goes as expected
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and um it'll be done according to the
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way that it should
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uh be done
18:16
secondly i've had a number of calls
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about the
18:20
abandoned bicycles in town and in the
18:22
city uh
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specifically the long island railroad so
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we went down there and there
18:27
uh there were 102 bicycles that had a
18:30
park there
18:31
from uh the east and west side of the
18:33
rail
18:34
uh most of them seem to be moved daily
18:37
probably 10 to 15
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of them in my opinion and i was down
18:40
there uh
18:42
on not being moved regularly so we've
18:45
uh we put warning tags on them and the
18:47
next two days
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uh they're in violation of a miscible
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code if they just leave their bike staff
18:53
we'll be uh taking them we'll unlock the
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locks
18:57
we'll take them with us and we'll put
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them on our impound lot and we'll leave
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them there
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um until someone comes to claim it
19:04
but uh we can't have abandoned bicycles
19:07
all over the
19:08
long island railroad so we're in the
19:10
process of doing that also
19:12
and that's really been my big complaint
19:13
this week has been the
19:15
bicycle issues from the uh striping for
19:17
the bike lanes
19:19
and the abandoned bicycles down to long
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island railroad
19:23
thank you
19:26
all right anybody got any questions uh
19:29
for phil
19:32
all right thanks phil appreciate it
19:36
all right next person up is councilwoman
19:38
trusted
19:40
oh thank you i just want to make sure
19:43
everyone is still aware
19:45
that the nassau county hazard mitigation
19:47
plan
19:48
their comment period ends at the end of
19:51
this month
19:52
so visit their website which is
19:57
going on nassau county ny
20:00
dot gov and then just uh
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doing a search to find oem the emergency
20:07
management home page
20:08
and if you want to comment please do so
20:11
thank you
20:16
okay thanks and anything else the last
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thing is
20:20
for everyone that applied to the boards
20:23
and the commissions i say thank you
20:25
we are in the process um we have several
20:27
applications
20:28
we are still interviewing and those that
20:31
applied should start
20:32
hearing from us by the end of this week
20:35
beginning of next week
20:37
that completes my report
20:40
okay uh anybody else got any questions
20:44
for anybody all right
20:48
then let's move on okay on to the agenda
20:51
first items approval of minutes for
20:52
prior meetings september 1st
20:54
through uh sorry and september 15 2020.
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sorry i hit the mute yeah yeah sorry i
21:06
i i hit the hit the button by mistake uh
21:08
who'll make a motion to approve
21:10
i will second i will
21:15
morning councilmember de laurie uh yes
21:17
councilman randall
21:19
yes councilmember treston yes vice
21:22
president mcginnis
21:24
yes president pando yes
21:27
okay item choose a resolution
21:29
authorizing the city manager to amend
21:30
the agreement for architectural
21:32
engineering design services for the city
21:34
of long beach bulkheading
21:35
northshore project and to amend the
21:36
budget
21:39
and i'm going to guess that's our mr
21:41
mirando
21:42
again that's correct
21:50
did i on mute yes okay um
21:53
so back in 2015 we signed a
21:57
professional services contract for
21:59
architectural engineering design and
22:01
construction administration
22:02
with tetra tech for the north shore
22:04
bulkhead uh
22:06
this is the third request for an
22:08
increase in cost
22:09
these increases have already been
22:11
approved by the governor's office of
22:12
storm recovery
22:14
in the amount of forty three thousand
22:15
ninety nine dollars and thirteen cents
22:18
uh we don't have to lay out any of this
22:20
funds this comes directly from ghosts to
22:22
us and then from us to the contra
22:24
to the engineering firm um this is the
22:27
third uh
22:28
increase in the budget over five-year
22:30
period costs have changed and some of
22:31
the design parameters have changed
22:34
and some of the construction work and
22:35
progress has changed
22:37
so we just need to approve this because
22:39
we're the ones that hold the
22:41
purchase order
22:44
okay um anybody got any questions for
22:47
john
22:51
okay hearing none do we have any
22:53
questions from the public
22:56
i have no hand oh wait we have roy
22:58
lester
23:03
okay roy go ahead whenever you're ready
23:05
go ahead and mute i
23:07
unmuted you can hear me yes okay
23:10
um three times they've asked for
23:13
increases and i'm not sure
23:15
i i understand this is just for
23:16
administration
23:18
and construction inspection now i
23:20
understand if you're doing construction
23:23
costs go up and and things change but
23:26
just on the inspection
23:27
i mean this is it there's not a lot
23:30
that's changing this is just the
23:32
bulkhead
23:33
and it's basically the same as when we
23:36
first started
23:38
um and the administration why
23:41
and i know it's not our money i mean
23:43
it's not the city's money it's
23:45
our money because it's our taxes why are
23:48
these things going up like this
23:50
well the the cost for their their uh
23:53
engineers and
23:54
people that work for them go up in
23:56
addition there's been several change
23:57
orders as things that we
23:59
are that you don't expect when you're
24:01
doing the construction as an example
24:03
would
24:03
we just uh had to approve a 265
24:07
000 change order due to an issue uh
24:10
related to the uh deflection in the
24:12
bulkhead
24:13
as a result of a requirement from the
24:15
new york state dec to place concrete
24:17
between the old bulkhead and the new
24:18
bulkhead
24:19
so that took a whole new redesign and
24:22
additional time for for inspection
24:25
services to see that through
24:28
how much was the original contract um
24:31
you know
24:32
i don't have that in front of me roy but
24:35
do you know how much the
24:36
uh it goes back to 2015 so no i know and
24:39
i tried to look it up and i couldn't get
24:41
it
24:42
and do you know how much the additional
24:44
uh
24:46
the additional funding was for the other
24:49
two times
24:51
uh no i don't have that in front of me
24:52
either all right if i could
24:54
get it at some point yeah thanks a lot
24:56
john give me a call in the office i'll
24:58
have all that right there
24:59
okay thank you okay
25:03
uh any other questions from the public
25:09
you muted dave
25:12
i know that was the only one that i have
25:14
okay then let's move on to item
25:16
three okay item three is a resolution
25:19
authorizing the city manager to enter
25:20
into a contract
25:21
for street lighting maintenance and
25:22
repair with the lowest responsible
25:24
bidder
25:25
and i'm gonna guess that's john again
25:28
correct
25:28
uh so uh our street lighting contract
25:31
has run out with extensions with wells
25:33
back
25:33
as of the end of november we put out a
25:36
new bid
25:38
four vendors picked up contracts uh only
25:41
three bid
25:42
the prices range from 365 910
25:46
to 800 9410 uh
25:49
the winning bid was new york trenchless
25:52
incorporated at 365
25:54
910 dollars uh
25:57
and we did do a significant check on
25:59
their references
26:00
uh with a couple of the towns and the
26:03
new york state d.o.t that they did work
26:04
for
26:05
we've had very good recommendations on
26:07
them a
26:08
portion of this is for normal monthly
26:11
maintenance
26:12
uh the monthly maintenance charge from
26:14
what we were paying will drop from 15
26:16
000 a month to 7 000 a month that's a
26:18
significant savings
26:20
uh the additional money in the contract
26:23
is for
26:24
is based on estimated repairs to
26:27
underground lines and things of that
26:28
nature
26:29
so this is typically we put in the
26:32
amounts that we've experienced over the
26:34
previous
26:34
years so there's a chance that we may
26:36
not spend any of that because
26:38
at the same time this contract is going
26:40
out uh we have a grant by niper
26:42
to finish replacing um
26:46
all of our non-led lights which is about
26:48
another 700 lights
26:50
and in addition they'll be adding a uh
26:53
monitoring program that will
26:54
automatically
26:55
uh send a text to us or a email when
26:59
it's
26:59
just typical when a street light goes
27:01
out before
27:03
we hear from even a resident so um i
27:05
think we'll be saving a significant
27:07
amount of money over the next
27:08
two years with this contract
27:11
okay um well actually i'll stop okay uh
27:15
john i'm going
27:16
i'm going from memory here but wells
27:18
bach we were paying them about
27:20
15 grand a month right correct all right
27:22
so this is basically a wash so this is
27:24
about the same price as we were paying
27:26
wells by
27:27
no no no they this their monthly
27:29
maintenance fee is only uh 7 000 a month
27:31
oh i'm sorry i'm sorry that's right
27:33
savings of 8
27:34
000 a month that's true i'm sorry
27:35
because you said the difference was
27:37
for anticipated repairs all right
27:40
so um anybody else got any questions
27:44
um i have one john um commissioner was
27:47
mike delore
27:48
um did wells back bid on this portion
27:52
again yes they did their bid came in
27:54
significantly higher than it was last
27:56
time their bid came in at 571 thousand
27:59
dollars
28:00
yeah and um i
28:04
these i guess the smart technology or
28:06
that
28:07
the question or the comment that you
28:09
made about the ability to find out
28:13
if a street light goes out before a
28:16
resident may call
28:19
right that's not part of this contract
28:20
that's part of the a neighbor grant that
28:22
we have
28:23
that we're presently working on we we
28:26
included that in this contract for
28:27
information for the contractor so they
28:29
know that
28:30
significant change will be coming in
28:32
addition to that which each um
28:35
what nypa does is they actually size the
28:37
wattage that we need
28:39
and as a result when we lower wattage on
28:41
a bulb we don't pay
28:42
metered rates for street lighting we pay
28:45
based on the wattage of each bulb
28:47
uh so each light fixture so by
28:51
properly sizing as we have been when we
28:53
do new street construction properly
28:55
sizing the wattage that we need we're
28:56
reducing the cost that we're paying to
28:58
pse g
29:00
and do you think the fixtures itself
29:03
would have to be replaced to match
29:05
the newer bulb or the fixtures that we
29:07
have
29:08
currently would fit no some of the the
29:11
uh
29:12
um the gen
29:15
there's there's a uh almost like a
29:16
ballast but it's not a ballast for an
29:18
led it's a kind of a generator in the
29:20
poll
29:20
that is matched to the voltage for the
29:23
light so
29:24
okay thank you
29:28
anyone else yes aaron uh john this is
29:31
karen
29:32
um i just wanted to make sure that you
29:34
and your staff are
29:36
uh comfortable with the exit clauses of
29:38
this contract
29:39
in terms of performance measures if they
29:40
are not met yes
29:43
very good thank you
29:47
hi john this is this is liz um
29:50
just this will have no effect on the
29:53
boardwalk lights and the contracts we
29:54
have with buzzback
29:56
will it no wellspace really wasn't
30:00
contracted to take care of the boardwalk
30:01
lights we took care of them ourselves
30:03
uh what wells back did for us with the
30:05
issue we had in lights which have all
30:07
been replaced
30:08
now with the with the new uh uh fixtures
30:11
uh not too light fishes but the new
30:13
connections uh
30:14
wells back did that directly and was
30:17
paid by sternberg for that
30:19
uh the manufacturer of the light so this
30:21
will have no effect on it but
30:23
this contract does include now this time
30:25
maintenance of those lights
30:26
also on the boardwalk great thank you
30:29
sir
30:34
okay scott you got a question you're the
30:37
only one who didn't ask something you
30:38
may as well come up with something
30:40
i think it's pretty clear-cut okay
30:44
all right so uh any questions from the
30:46
public yes we have roy lester
30:49
okay roy you're on muted god
30:54
okay i'm unmuted god yep
30:57
yeah all right um a couple of questions
30:59
john did you say that
31:01
if they don't have to do as much work
31:04
we don't have to pay that much money or
31:06
is this a fixed fee
31:07
i i wasn't sure i understood that well
31:09
there's a fixed fee for the monthly
31:11
maintenance
31:12
okay which is seven thousand dollars a
31:15
month
31:15
the other i'm sorry john that's that's
31:18
not included in the 365.
31:20
that's that's included no that's
31:22
included in the 365 but that
31:24
amounts to you know eighty four thousand
31:26
dollars right right yeah
31:27
but the rest is what we do is there's
31:30
different kinds of repairs that take
31:31
place
31:32
if you have an underground break there's
31:34
money in there to take care of locating
31:36
where the brake is there's money in
31:37
there to replace underground cable
31:40
uh if a pole is hit there's money there
31:42
to play replace a pole
31:44
and what we we do just to have a basis
31:46
to compare the bids
31:48
is we estimate based on our history over
31:50
the last two or three years how many of
31:52
those underground breaks do we get
31:54
how many poles get hit uh how many
31:56
fixtures
31:57
you know uh not the the uh of itself but
32:00
how many
32:01
arms making it making it real simple
32:04
john
32:04
if we have no underground breaks if we
32:07
get no polls hit do we get money back
32:10
no we don't get money back but we don't
32:11
pay we don't pay we only pay what we use
32:14
it's a requirements contract so the 365
32:18
is the maximum
32:20
the 360 the 365 is the estimate of what
32:23
it would cost us
32:24
estimate okay that's what i wasn't sure
32:28
it's not a it's not a fix
32:30
it's not a hard number no oh okay and
32:33
the other thing is you said we take care
32:34
of the
32:35
well we used to take care of the
32:36
boardwalk lights ourselves
32:38
just out of curiosity how come we don't
32:41
do
32:42
all this work in-house we we don't we
32:45
don't have enough trained electricians
32:46
to do this okay
32:47
i know right brakes and what have you we
32:49
have one electrician that works for
32:51
beach maintenance that's
32:52
it okay and they take right now they
32:55
were taking care of the boardwalk lights
32:57
right one guy
32:58
and we also don't have you know large
33:00
trucks for high
33:01
fixtures and things of that nature you
33:03
know we just have the one boom truck
33:05
all right that answers my question thank
33:07
you john you're welcome
33:11
okay any other questions from the public
33:14
do not see any more hands at this time
33:17
okay
33:18
let's move on to item four and enforce a
33:20
resolution authorizing the city manager
33:22
to accept funds
33:23
from the new york state municipal
33:25
workers compensation alliance
33:28
and that is simone good evening
33:32
so um we are part of the new york state
33:36
municipal compensation
33:37
workers compensation alliance or comp
33:39
alliance
33:40
and they administer our workers
33:43
compensation insurance
33:45
um and various other municipalities
33:48
workers compensation insurance so
33:50
in appreciation of its members and also
33:53
um
33:54
in response to covid they
33:57
um have been issuing loyal member
33:59
loyalty awards
34:01
so we have been issued a member loyalty
34:03
award of
34:04
four thousand seven hundred and eighty
34:06
six dollars
34:08
um that we'd like to accept
34:15
okay they mute anyone that says they
34:17
don't want to accept it okay
34:20
um all right any questions from anyone
34:23
on the council
34:25
uh yes this is karen i have two
34:27
questions for you simone
34:29
yes was this calculation based on the
34:31
fact that our workforce decreased
34:34
well they've been doing we did get a
34:36
previous check and i think that was
34:38
based on the calculation of our
34:39
workforce
34:40
this is something that they review it's
34:42
my understanding
34:43
annually um and it's based on your
34:46
long-term membership and also what your
34:48
claims are and how things have been
34:49
processed so
34:50
in part i think they might be giving a
34:52
little bit more because of code but
34:54
it's a little it's a mix they do do the
34:56
annual loyalty award anyway but
34:59
it's it's slightly a mix i guess if that
35:01
answers your question
35:03
yes yeah if i if i recall correctly they
35:05
gave us back
35:07
twenty thousand dollars last year if i
35:09
remember correctly
35:10
right yeah it's a little bit higher than
35:12
it was last year yeah i think
35:13
that covet is why um it's higher
35:17
um of course because of covet but every
35:19
year you should get money back
35:21
when they have a certain surplus yes
35:24
this
35:24
they had a probably a higher surplus
35:27
this year
35:28
because of coal because of cooling yes
35:31
so then my second question is of course
35:33
i'm all about the savings
35:35
so it's not savings but it's a it's a
35:37
surplus so therefore i'd like to know
35:39
what account
35:40
number this is credited to or what
35:42
account designation
35:44
we'll get that to you because it goes
35:45
back into the general fund
35:47
so we'll send that to you we'll send
35:48
that to the entire council
35:50
to say which account number it goes into
35:52
thank you
35:55
all right anyone else
35:59
all right any questions from the public
36:01
dave yes
36:02
uh we have roy lester once again okay
36:05
roy you're on muted go ahead
36:07
okay um what did we pay last year into
36:10
this uh
36:11
alliance
36:14
roy i'll have to look that up and i'll
36:16
get that back to you
36:17
okay and it it's a it's basically an
36:20
alliance so
36:21
and it's a not-for-profit isn't it yes
36:25
so isn't it doesn't that money the
36:27
surplus belong to the members
36:31
yes the surplus it depends on what their
36:34
bylaws say but a surplus does belong to
36:36
the members
36:37
but they can so it's not an appreciation
36:39
of its membership it's
36:40
it actually belongs to us well that's
36:42
what they
36:43
remember right yeah that's the thing
36:45
okay okay
36:47
and and um is there a formula to this
36:50
to what they do i have no idea what the
36:53
formula is we will have to look at to
36:54
see how they divide
36:56
within their bylaws how they they uh
36:58
determine a surplus
36:59
okay you're welcome thank you thank you
37:04
okay anyone else steve nope that was
37:08
it okay let's move on to item five
37:12
item five is a resolution authorizing
37:13
amendments to the urban development fund
37:15
budget years
37:16
2016 17 18 19 and 20.
37:20
all right that's patty bourne okay
37:31
good evening
37:34
the city's urban development funds are
37:37
comprised
37:38
of the lease payments from stop and shop
37:41
realty inc
37:43
it's based upon the city obtained a 5
37:46
million dollar
37:47
urban development action grant or udag
37:51
grant from hud in the 1980s
37:54
for economic development purposes the
37:57
funds were made available
37:58
to the city to purchase the seven acres
38:01
of the now
38:01
houses the stop and shop retail mall
38:04
where our stop and shop supermarket is
38:08
and um in terms of use
38:11
of the lease funds that come back every
38:14
year
38:14
from stop and shop because they're
38:16
leasing the property
38:17
from the city i had checked with our
38:20
current
38:21
auditors our controller
38:24
ina and our past auditors and the
38:27
guidance for the use of the funds
38:29
was that the city should use them to
38:31
improve the community
38:33
and provide programs that generally meet
38:35
hud
38:36
priorities however there is no
38:39
hud oversight on these funds as the udag
38:44
program ended several decades ago
38:47
and in fact i spoke to someone who used
38:50
to work for hud
38:51
and is knowledgeable and he concurred
38:53
again
38:54
that there is no interest or action from
38:56
hud but we're following the guidance on
38:58
the use of the funds from
39:00
our auditor the amendments being
39:02
considered tonight
39:03
are consistent with prior amendments to
39:06
this fund
39:08
specifically they are to support ada
39:11
work at city hall
39:12
we're going to make improvements to the
39:14
new elevator that's going in
39:16
the second elevator and support for
39:19
community programs
39:21
and staff and one example is the senior
39:23
programs that we
39:25
support that will now be virtual rather
39:28
than in person due to covet
39:30
so there are two actions tonight in the
39:33
resolution the first is to amend the
39:36
2016
39:38
through 2019 fund years to put money
39:43
into contracted services and that total
39:46
will be used
39:47
for the elevator towards the total cost
39:49
of the elevator paid a portion of it
39:51
and that's eligible because ada purpose
39:54
and
39:55
we're also looking to allocate
39:58
the funds for the year 2020 and those
40:01
funds will be used
40:03
for as indicated in the resolution for
40:06
salaries temporary salaries
40:08
and contracted services consistent with
40:11
priority programs
40:18
okay uh any questions from the
40:22
council members
40:26
i would this is karen i would just say
40:28
that i i have no doubt everything is in
40:30
order
40:30
absolutely no doubt about it but i
40:33
didn't really really
40:37
karen you muted yourself
40:41
you still muted you stole me you did
40:44
i did i don't know all right okay
40:48
so like i'll just to recap i have no
40:51
doubt that everything is in order here
40:53
and i really appreciate all the hard
40:54
that work that went into it
40:56
but prior to receiving this packet i
40:59
really had no idea that this fund
41:00
existed
41:01
so i'm not really comfortable in voting
41:03
on this tonight so i would ask that it
41:04
be tabled
41:08
until i can understand what's what's
41:10
what's going on here
41:18
how much are you making a motion or
41:22
thank you john i would like to make a
41:23
motion that we table this
41:25
to uh so that we can get a further
41:27
understanding
41:28
of how the urban development plan has
41:30
been working for the past several years
41:32
please
41:33
okay motion to table do i have a second
41:38
anyone there is there a time
41:42
is this there is there a time crunch on
41:44
this
41:45
that it needs to happen today
41:49
do we are we going to have to have a
41:50
special meeting well well
41:52
the discussion normally comes that's the
41:55
vote i'm sorry
41:56
after not after the vote after somebody
41:58
seconds then there's discussion before
42:00
the vote so
42:04
sorry i'm learning still thank you
42:06
that's okay
42:10
all right is there any second on this
42:14
motion
42:16
all right seeing no second the motion
42:18
fails
42:22
okay uh any other questions
42:28
and then just i guess for information
42:30
purposes for people that may not
42:32
go to city hall why this is kind of
42:35
important where it's going to the
42:36
elevator
42:37
city hall when the building was built
42:40
had three elevators
42:42
uh only one has worked for
42:45
for quite some time one has been out of
42:46
commission since i think since
42:49
for years uh one worked intermittently
42:52
for a while but hasn't worked for a few
42:54
years now so there's only one elevator
42:56
and even that
42:57
breaks down and if uh i know many
42:59
employees and myself included have
43:02
gotten stuck in that one elevator that
43:05
uh dave shaking his head so he got stuck
43:07
last week
43:08
all right he got stuck last week and you
43:10
know you wind up having
43:12
to call sometimes the fire department so
43:14
they can come get you out
43:15
well luckily the elevator repair guys
43:17
were on the state we're on the floor
43:18
below and they were able to get me out
43:20
yeah they had to call the fire
43:22
department for me but uh
43:24
uh so yeah we need we need to get this
43:27
fixed
43:28
uh so we at least have uh one one
43:31
certainly
43:32
uh and then preferably two working
43:34
elevators
43:35
so um what i would ask karen
43:39
um would it help that we have patty
43:41
contact you and go over
43:43
urban development um actually maybe at
43:46
our
43:46
next working session we can talk about
43:49
urban urban development how long we've
43:51
been doing
43:52
urban development and about how we get
43:54
the money as you can see
43:55
what we're reallocating is 2016 17 18
43:59
and 19
44:00
monies that were not used um so i think
44:04
that
44:05
to so that everyone can understand
44:08
we can have a in-depth conversation
44:10
about urban development
44:12
now i just have a general question and i
44:14
don't know if it can be answered patty
44:16
um when the annual citywide
44:21
budget is put together and presented
44:24
would this have been part of that
44:28
did i miss it no uh mike hi
44:32
um as far
44:36
i really got involved in uh community
44:38
development and urban development in
44:40
may when donna asked me to take over the
44:44
program
44:45
so i wasn't involved during the budget
44:47
process
44:48
but it appears to me from the research
44:51
i've done looking back
44:52
at prior years funding and allocations
44:55
that and the resolutions that this was
44:58
done by the city separately
45:00
for example ina's on the phone
45:03
in is on the call i really hate the call
45:06
that that's
45:07
a question i didn't see you there okay
45:09
oh yeah
45:10
i just wanted to say that if i could
45:13
just finish
45:14
that the last time the city took action
45:16
it was in the month of december
45:19
uh two years ago so it wasn't at the
45:21
same time as the budget cycle
45:23
okay thank you paddy
45:26
hi good evening good evening how's
45:29
everyone
45:30
ah yes that is absolutely right so
45:33
revenues and expenses that pertain to
45:36
the urban development grant
45:38
they're not part of the operating funds
45:41
of the city so you don't see this
45:45
information
45:46
when we present a city budget for you to
45:50
vote
45:51
on and uh hence it
45:54
it should go as a separate item um on
45:57
resolution for when the um urban
46:01
development
46:02
grant is budgeted for
46:05
every year it goes on separately so
46:07
basically
46:08
it's a restricted fund god as patty said
46:14
though she described the purpose of the
46:16
ground uh pretty comprehensively
46:19
and um it's maintained separately in
46:22
our erp and what you see now
46:25
in front of you is the funds that were
46:28
received in prior
46:30
years but were not yet spent
46:33
so we are they they had all of those
46:36
years had specific budgets presented to
46:40
the city council
46:41
that were approved by the city council
46:43
so
46:44
now that for those 16 17 18 and 19
46:48
fiscal years
46:49
from those funds that remain in order to
46:52
spend them towards the
46:54
elevator repair you need to approve
46:58
the reallocation of the budget
47:02
and that's what's in front of you
47:07
thank you i hope i
47:10
answered the questions
47:13
yeah i i i'll have a question but i
47:16
haven't thought of it now
47:18
okay sure
47:22
we'll hold a spot for you mike
47:25
uh okay uh any questions from the public
47:29
dave
47:32
uh yes uh kathleen o'leary
47:36
okay okay kathleen go ahead on you
47:44
okay am i on yes you are go ahead okay
47:47
um
47:48
i guess um i have a question on
47:52
i understand the reallocating of the
47:54
prior years to the elevator
47:56
in terms of 2020 um there's 200 000
48:00
in the fund and you know virtual
48:02
services
48:03
for senior center is the only thing
48:06
that's been
48:07
brought up to spend it on i don't think
48:09
virtual
48:11
services are would cost that much what
48:14
about
48:15
putting a handicapped accessible door in
48:17
city law
48:18
and using these 20 20 funds for a door
48:22
that disabled people could get in
48:27
okay uh i'm not sure who the right
48:29
person uh well
48:30
just in case you don't know because
48:31
people haven't been in city hall there
48:33
is a
48:34
handicapped accessible door at city hall
48:37
now on the outside
48:39
wait liz you said something liz but we
48:41
couldn't hear you is it accessible door
48:43
let's let's not use the word handicap
48:46
well i'm sorry an accessible door now at
48:48
city hall
48:51
well i'm still using the main doors and
48:54
um
48:54
i i don't think it's unusual for a
48:57
building to have that kind of a setup
48:59
and i would just like to see it get some
49:01
priority if
49:03
are there other programs this 200 000 is
49:06
is going to go to you
49:10
well just so you know when you come to
49:11
this if you come to city hall just so
49:13
you you use right the door on the right
49:16
side so the door to the right of the
49:18
revolving door
49:19
there's there's a button there a big
49:21
square button you push to open the door
49:24
oh okay i didn't i was there yesterday i
49:27
didn't see it
49:27
okay maybe yeah all right but yeah it's
49:29
it's the door to the right of the
49:30
revolving door
49:31
okay okay and then the grant itself
49:35
and correct me if i'm wrong um patty
49:37
it's for 102
49:39
399. that is correct
49:43
yes right and so that goes towards
49:45
salaries contractor service and
49:46
temporary salaries
49:48
and the senior services that is zoom is
49:51
not just going to go for those services
49:54
it will be for any service programs that
49:56
we we can do not just for
49:58
we're not gonna spend a hundred and two
49:59
thousand dollars on zoom
50:01
for seniors no it supports other
50:04
programs such as
50:06
the street improvements uh bike lanes
50:09
that uh phil ragona talked about
50:13
the non-profit clergy network that we
50:15
started this year
50:16
under covid to expand services
50:20
youth training programs uh tree
50:23
plantings
50:24
it all supports the staffing for all
50:25
those things the
50:27
ada bathrooms on the fifth floor
50:30
for um the mlk youth programs
50:34
and um residential rehab
50:37
uh the college lab at mlk so it's it's
50:40
staff support
50:41
to make these programs work because
50:42
there's a lot of procurement involved
50:45
in any type of uh use of these
50:49
types of funds okay thank you
50:55
okay uh any more questions kathleen or
50:58
did we answer everything
50:59
yes that's everything all right and by
51:01
the way hello we haven't heard from you
51:02
in a while
51:03
i know all right thanks
51:06
um anyone else dave
51:12
you mean uh john john miranda had his
51:14
hand up oh okay
51:15
well john you're muted go ahead just on
51:18
that discussion of the uh
51:20
the accessible door we put that door in
51:23
temporarily but just remember that we
51:25
have a
51:25
uh design going on for a one million
51:28
dollar
51:29
hazard mitigation project being funded
51:31
by fema to re
51:32
do the entire first floor of city hall
51:35
and
51:36
at that time there'll be bigger
51:37
improvements on accessibility
51:40
good good to know
51:44
all right anyone else dave
51:49
hang on one second oh no okay nope
51:52
all right let's move on to item six okay
51:55
and item six is a resolution authorizing
51:57
transfer of funds for the 2020 2021
52:00
fiscal year
52:03
and that's enough
52:08
you muted
52:13
not muted anymore there you go okay
52:17
so um i'm not sure if um you've seen
52:20
this
52:21
a lot in the past but uh um
52:25
the appropriate thing to do is to move
52:29
your budget where operations really
52:32
take you and in this case um
52:36
uh the reason need to increase the
52:39
budget
52:40
in in you know regular salary lines
52:45
um and that's what basically
52:48
this resolution is about uh
52:52
there were as clauses there that explain
52:55
what it's for there were two conversions
52:58
from the part-time positions to the
53:00
full-time positions
53:02
and the majority of
53:05
the difference between those part-time
53:07
salaries and full-time salaries
53:10
are covered by determination in the same
53:13
department however
53:15
um there was a 5400 deficit
53:19
um well but deficit meaning there was a
53:24
shortage
53:24
in a regular salaries line and that was
53:27
brought to
53:29
the department management and brought up
53:32
to the department management
53:34
and they asked to reallocate the funds
53:38
from
53:38
one of their non-personnel lines to this
53:41
line
53:43
so part-time positions can be converted
53:49
okay any questions from the council
53:52
members
53:54
i have one how about it
53:58
um ina yes
54:02
um converting i'm just going to read
54:05
something just
54:06
if i'm understanding this one full-time
54:09
employee
54:10
was terminated and
54:13
two part-time positions
54:17
became full-time positions
54:20
that's accurate yes okay
54:23
i'm assuming then that the terminate
54:25
employee was at a much higher
54:27
salary uh about 40 percent higher
54:32
than whatever this new positions are
54:34
starting at
54:35
okay so you understand my question and
54:38
yeah yeah
54:39
absolutely yeah and
54:42
the other part is
54:45
the benefit packages that go along with
54:48
these
54:49
are called benefit package the benefits
54:51
attached to each employee
54:53
would appear in a different line item in
54:55
the budget
54:56
yes okay thank you that's right sure
55:01
okay anyone else karen you look like you
55:04
got one
55:05
yeah of course um hyena
55:09
first off i want to um commend um
55:12
i think it is um mr scott is that
55:15
correct donna
55:17
for this uh for this recommendation and
55:20
you
55:22
you muted donna
55:26
yes i'm having problems like everybody
55:28
else being muted
55:31
i thought um i thought this was showed
55:33
real uh leadership
55:34
and innovation and then a real concern
55:38
for
55:38
our for our employees to bring two
55:41
part-time employees to full-time
55:43
and um that benefits with benefits um i
55:48
congratulate
55:49
these uh new full-time employees
55:52
personally
55:52
very happy for them and very proud that
55:55
um
55:56
i work with colleagues that are are
55:59
really concerned about their employees
56:01
and want
56:01
and want to see the best for them so
56:03
thank you very very much
56:05
thank you and i'll make sure that um
56:08
greg and his staff
56:10
hears about your thank yous yes mr scott
56:13
way to go
56:14
okay so then so then i have to look at
56:16
the number side
56:17
so i thought about um i looked at the
56:19
past two personnel reports
56:21
and i sort of figured out that yes the
56:23
higher the uh the full-time employee
56:25
that left was making a large salary
56:27
and that the two part-timers that are
56:29
moving to full-time
56:30
are making a smaller salary a lower
56:33
salary
56:33
lower salaries even including benefits
56:37
i understand why the increase uh the
56:40
transfer has to happen
56:41
however i think i'm missing
56:44
um a quantif a quantification
56:47
of the amount that we are going to save
56:50
in part-time
56:51
um expenses um
56:55
i'm unmuted right yes
56:58
okay sure so um in a part-time expenses
57:02
we are saving um
57:06
about um
57:09
39 about 40 000
57:12
on an annual basis this two employees
57:15
who
57:15
uh whose position have been converted
57:18
that's what they were making on an
57:20
annual basis
57:22
exactly so so basically
57:25
to me this this analysis is incomplete
57:27
because it doesn't include the fact that
57:29
we're saving forty thousand dollars
57:31
and that that's on my checklist of how
57:33
much we're saving you know that our and
57:35
honest checklist that we're saving money
57:37
even while we're helping bring part-time
57:39
employees to full-time employment status
57:42
including with benefits so i think that
57:45
you know
57:45
again i commend you for doing this but i
57:48
think it
57:49
we missed the point that we're also
57:51
saving money actually
57:54
um we're saving money in one of the
57:58
lines
57:58
in one of the salary lines however there
58:01
will be an
58:01
increase the net increase of this
58:04
transition
58:05
is fifty four hundred dollars um
58:08
i find that hard to believe i really do
58:12
okay um okay so i'll take a look at it
58:15
one of the reasons that we said that we
58:17
we have not mentioned
58:18
savings is because we're looking at
58:21
how many employees that are part-time
58:24
and once we get money
58:25
how many more we can bring on full-time
58:28
so
58:29
so we won't when we say we only needed
58:31
the 5400 that was to convert the other
58:34
two
58:35
if something happens then we can say
58:37
based on the savings from the part-time
58:39
line
58:40
and based on savings from somebody else
58:42
leaving now we can convert
58:44
one other additional person so i
58:46
understand what you're saying karen but
58:48
that's why we didn't put it out there
58:50
because we are still trying to figure
58:52
out if we can do any more conversions
58:54
this year
58:55
so it's two peak to be continued which
58:57
is again
58:58
to be continued yes and then um my only
59:02
my only other my final statement on this
59:04
on this analysis
59:05
is that i just want to put it on the
59:07
record that i am
59:10
i really would like to see departmental
59:12
costs which include payroll taxes and
59:15
benefits within one department instead
59:17
of a lump sum
59:18
for all csa members all fire department
59:21
and all police department
59:22
because it really makes analyzing these
59:24
types of costs difficult
59:27
for someone thank you
59:32
okay anyone else
59:37
all right here none do we have any
59:39
questions from the public
59:41
yes we do roy lester okay you're unmuted
59:44
go ahead
59:46
okay um i i have to say i agree with
59:48
karen that it would be great if we could
59:50
see the benefits within the department
59:52
but i i don't see how we're saving money
59:55
on this
59:56
i think what we're doing is we're
59:58
gaining two workers which is
60:00
absolutely great now my question is we
60:02
have
60:03
almost a quarter million set aside for
60:05
overtime is this going to affect the
60:07
overtime at all
60:09
can we come down on that
60:13
roy we're looking at everything as a
60:15
whole um and so what i will say is that
60:17
as we do our analysis we will start
60:19
looking at overtime
60:21
um and looking at past right now we're
60:24
working on the conversions
60:26
so i i want you to to know that we're
60:29
looking at everything as a whole
60:31
um and we probably can answer within the
60:34
next month about the overtime because we
60:36
had to get control
60:37
of the overtime okay i i think the
60:40
conversions are a great idea
60:42
and you know it's i i really like the
60:44
idea that these guys who had these
60:46
temporary positions of part-time
60:47
positions now have the full-time
60:49
positions
60:50
because they always seem to be treated
60:52
as kind of second-class citizens in
60:54
those part-time positions
60:56
and you know they they're great guys
60:59
those guys i do have a question though
61:02
the
61:03
money that it came from came from
61:06
supplies and material
61:08
now last year when we did the budget we
61:11
we normally spend around twenty thousand
61:13
twenty five thousand on supplies and
61:15
materials
61:16
but last year the budget was raised to
61:18
fifty five thousand more than doubled on
61:20
supplies and materials
61:22
and now we're finding that supplies and
61:24
materials we have extra money
61:27
how are we so wrong
61:30
well we can't tell you about the prior
61:32
year's budget because
61:33
nor ena nor i was here when the prior
61:36
year budget
61:37
was done however this year's budget
61:39
everyone was told that they have
61:41
they are accountable for their budget
61:43
and because we were reducing
61:45
everyone's budget i i believe that they
61:48
came in looking at things more
61:51
realistically
61:52
and as well as that the information they
61:54
received wasn't just for prior year
61:56
it was also for at least three years
61:59
prior to that
62:00
um so i think now people and along with
62:03
the finance people we're all looking at
62:05
what we're really spending and not what
62:07
we
62:08
we're looking at our needs not
62:09
necessarily our wants on certain line
62:11
items
62:12
well but that's that's what i mean it
62:14
went from 25 000
62:15
in 2020 to 55 000 in 2021 so what we're
62:20
doing is that there's something there
62:22
we'll have to go back and look to see
62:24
what they're asking for that needed to
62:26
go on that line
62:28
and and now we say we well we have 5400
62:31
extra
62:32
in that line so they may have had a
62:35
savings
62:36
every line item that every department
62:38
does they have to tell
62:39
us what they're looking for to purchase
62:42
within that line item
62:43
if they can come in under what they
62:45
budgeted for then there's a savings
62:48
yeah and and right just remember one
62:50
thing one of the hallmarks of budgets in
62:52
previous years was
62:53
underestimating of expenses so
62:57
the budget this year was trying to be
62:59
more in line with the reality of what
63:02
they've been spending historically so
63:05
that that may also be i'm not saying
63:07
that's specific to this line item in the
63:09
budget but that may be what the
63:11
what are the uh the factors that may
63:13
have caused it to change
63:15
but john you can see each year what they
63:17
spend and they never spend 55 000
63:20
never even close but all right okay
63:22
regardless i
63:23
think that that's true they may not have
63:26
but they may have seen that there was
63:27
something
63:28
in this current year which we will get
63:30
back to you on
63:32
that they needed to spend extra money on
63:35
they have to justify why they came up
63:37
with that number
63:38
we didn't just put that number in there
63:40
because we thought it was a good number
63:44
so they justified that they were
63:45
purchasing something that would increase
63:47
it
63:47
and we can get that information to you
63:49
yeah
63:50
that that's consistent to any light item
63:53
if you had twenty thousand twenty five
63:54
thousand a year before thirty
63:56
twenty and you go to 60 somewhere along
63:59
the line
64:00
it's going to be explained the need now
64:02
if that need doesn't exist anymore
64:04
yes it goes back and but i um
64:07
i want to thank you roy for really going
64:09
through
64:10
all of these line items and asking these
64:13
questions
64:14
and uh you know it would have been nice
64:19
had we all been as diligent three years
64:21
ago but
64:23
i i'm here now and uh i think
64:27
that's what everybody is focusing in on
64:30
every person that you see
64:31
in this video does
64:35
look at those numbers and donna
64:38
looks at them daily so i'm more
64:41
comfortable
64:42
i hope you are but i hope you um you
64:45
know
64:46
keep looking at these things and you
64:47
know pointing them out this year
64:50
at least michael this year i'm getting
64:52
answers to mine we always
64:54
looked at the numbers we just didn't get
64:56
answers oh
64:57
i i am i stand corrected thank you
65:03
all right um john mirando commissioner
65:05
rando just
65:06
asked me a question commissioner that
65:08
could be what the extra money was for
65:10
you can mention it
65:11
um i'm not sure but that could be what
65:14
it was for
65:16
but you're on mute so you can mention it
65:22
there's commissioner out there yeah he's
65:24
still on commissioner
65:26
he's unmuted now yeah i believe the
65:29
additional money in materials and
65:30
supplies and sanitation was to
65:32
uh purchase about 25 to 30 000
65:36
worth of um garbage pails for the west
65:39
end to replace some of the street cans
65:42
and then i believe uh that that's going
65:45
to be part of a capital assistance grant
65:47
that we got from senator kaminsky
65:49
so that's that may be part of the
65:51
reasons we're not going to spend that
65:52
whole 15.
65:54
and i think that's what it was but i you
65:56
know i
65:57
we will check to verify but thanks
65:59
commissioner i um i think that was it
66:04
okay get it right yep thank you
66:07
okay thank you anyone else dave
66:10
yes we do one second uh kathleen o'leary
66:15
oh welcome back
66:18
um hi i'd like to speak about the um
66:21
conversion of the bus a garage
66:24
potentially to a popeyes
66:26
oh that's that's not that that'll be
66:28
next when we do good in welfare
66:30
oh i'm sorry i thought we were doing
66:31
good no no not yet we're getting close
66:37
okay uh anyone else dave
66:42
nope that's it okay let's move on to
66:44
item seven
66:45
okay item seven is a resolution to
66:47
schedule a special meeting of the city
66:48
council on thursday october 29th 2020.
66:53
okay and uh that's the the purpose of
66:57
the meeting
66:57
is that the special meeting we will be
67:00
reviewing
67:01
and approving uh policies
67:05
a whole lot of them um
67:11
all right uh any questions from the
67:13
council
67:14
i i just have one question and uh
67:17
and donna i don't know if you can answer
67:19
this or not
67:20
but it has to do with the october 29th
67:24
the policies
67:25
there is a lot of data there and i think
67:29
that's why
67:30
we are scheduling a special meeting and
67:33
yes
67:34
for example if mr lester wants to read
67:37
all of these policies
67:38
in advance i would gather that he would
67:44
just be given a heads up that this is
67:46
going to be rather lengthy read
67:49
would i be it is yes it is a very
67:52
lengthy read um
67:54
we have been working on these policies
67:56
with cma for quite a while
67:58
um and they've gone through legal review
68:01
they've gone through
68:02
all types of reviews so that they are
68:05
policies for
68:06
government um for a municipality so
68:09
roy if you want to take a look at the
68:12
policies i will gladly give you
68:14
we can send you a copy um because i know
68:18
you
68:18
but it's a lengthy reading we can get
68:21
those
68:22
if possible i will talk to dave frazier
68:25
people that want to
68:26
ask questions about um
68:29
any of the policies um we'll have the
68:32
list out shortly
68:34
of all of the policies so i'm also
68:36
reminding the council that if you have
68:37
any
68:38
questions please get those to me because
68:40
i'm not the only one that answers the
68:41
questions
68:42
and so i want to make sure we get all
68:44
the questions and everything sent back
68:46
in a timely manner for the meeting
68:49
i know it's a lot of reading yeah and
68:52
the reason i pointed out because i i
68:54
know roy seems to like to
68:57
review everything right i personally
68:59
like people
69:01
i'd like to give him an opportunity
69:03
because i know
69:04
getting it on let's say if it's a
69:06
thursday meeting or whatever day of the
69:08
week it is
69:08
i'm getting it two or three days before
69:10
is going to
69:12
be a lengthy overnight read and that's
69:15
all i'm asking for if there's
69:16
any way um that could happen thank you
69:20
okay all right any other
69:23
questions
69:27
all right dave anything no hands raised
69:29
at this time
69:31
okay then let's get on to the voting
69:34
okay we'll start with item number two
69:35
which is a resolution authorizing the
69:37
city manager to amend
69:38
the agreement for architectural
69:40
engineering design services for the city
69:41
of long beach bulkheading north shore
69:43
project and to amend the budget
69:45
we'll introduce a move the adoption of
69:46
this item i will
69:49
second i will
69:52
voting councilmember delivery yes
69:55
councilmember mandel
69:56
yes councilmember tristan yes
69:59
vice president mcginnis yes president
70:02
bendo
70:03
yes item three is a resolution
70:05
authorizing the city manager to enter to
70:07
a contract for street lighting
70:08
maintenance and repair with the lowest
70:10
responsible bidder
70:11
would you just move the adoption of this
70:13
item
70:15
i will second
70:20
i will pick one okay
70:23
owen councilmember delorey yes
70:26
councilmember mandel
70:27
yes councilmember treston yes vice
70:31
president mcginnis
70:32
yes president pendo yes item four is the
70:36
resolution authorizing the city manager
70:37
to accept funds
70:38
from the new york state municipal
70:40
workers compensation alliance who want
70:42
to just move the adoption of this item i
70:44
will
70:45
second i will
70:50
voting councilman delorey
70:53
i didn't is god okay uh yes but i
70:56
don't know if i heard something some
70:58
noise uh councilmember mandel
71:01
yes okay uh
71:04
councilmember treston yes vice president
71:07
mcginnis
71:08
yes president bendo yes
71:11
item five is the resolution authorizing
71:13
amendments to the urban development fund
71:15
budget years 2016
71:16
17 18 19 and 20. i wouldn't just remove
71:19
the adoption of this item
71:23
i will second i will
71:27
voting councilman delorey yes
71:30
councilmember mandel
71:32
yes councilmember tresten
71:35
vice president mcginnis i want to say
71:38
that
71:39
on this item i agree we need to fix the
71:42
elevator that's not in question
71:44
but i think it's a poor use of urban
71:46
development funds to
71:48
fix the elevator so therefore i vote no
71:51
president pendo yes okay item
71:55
six is a resolution authorizing transfer
71:57
of funds for the 2020-2021 fiscal year
72:00
won't you just move the adoption of this
72:01
item
72:04
i will second i will
72:09
voting councilmember delorey yes
72:11
councilmember mandel
72:13
yes councilmember treston yes vice
72:16
president mcginnis
72:17
yes president bendo yes
72:20
and finally item seven is a resolution
72:22
to schedule a special meeting of the
72:23
city council on
72:24
thursday october 29th 2020. which just
72:27
remove the adoption of this item
72:31
i will second
72:35
i will vote in council member delorey
72:39
yes councilmember mandel yes
72:42
councilmember trusted yes vice president
72:45
mcginnis
72:46
yes president bendo
72:49
city manager's personnel report has been
72:51
filed by the city clerk we'll make a
72:52
motion to close the meeting
72:55
i will second
72:58
i will
73:03
morning councilman delorey
73:06
yes councilmember mandel yes
73:09
councilmember treston yes vice president
73:12
mcginnis
73:13
yes and president pendo yes
73:17
okay and
73:21
oh one thing we should also note um is
73:24
that the next
73:25
regular meeting is not gonna it's going
73:27
to be on a wednesday because of election
73:29
day
73:30
so just everybody keep that in mind that
73:32
we will have the special meeting
73:34
but we also have the regular meeting
73:36
will be on the
73:37
on november 4th
73:41
just wanted to mention that thank you
73:43
okay okay
73:46
all right and all right so on to
73:50
good and welfare um so i think most
73:53
people know the drill but just in case
73:55
you're a first timer
73:56
what you got something dave no no oh
73:59
okay
74:00
uh so you get three papers you get three
74:02
minutes
74:03
um please uh
74:06
act with some decorum and um
74:10
okay who's up first yeah folks just a
74:12
reminder you can use the raise your hand
74:14
function if you want to speak at
74:15
good and welfare uh we have three
74:17
speakers so far we're going to start
74:18
with roy lester
74:20
okay go ahead wow
74:24
okay um on the parking that you did the
74:27
other day
74:28
at the work session i have a couple of
74:29
questions in our revenue we have
74:32
commuter parking lot
74:33
fees is that just i'm not sure what
74:37
what money that is from
74:40
and we also have parking meter fees and
74:42
i'm not sure what that money is for
74:44
from can you answer that and not take my
74:47
time
74:49
maybe i will try okay
74:54
okay so um the commuter
74:58
parking account is for
75:01
the parking at the long island railroad
75:04
train station
75:05
and the other one roy what did you say
75:08
what was the other one
75:12
yeah that's the parking meter so um
75:16
we actually combine um
75:20
uh revenues received for this
75:25
municipal parking lot it's uh
75:28
included if you have the city budget in
75:31
front of you
75:32
it's included in the clerk
75:36
um fees line clerk fees
75:39
yes okay so what are the parking meter
75:43
fees
75:46
you know are those are those those the
75:49
muni meters at the train station yes
75:52
yeah because we have muni meters that so
75:54
people who don't buy an
75:55
annual pass for the long island railroad
75:58
uh
75:58
parking lot there are muni meters for
76:01
people who park by the day
76:05
so why did why did the projection for
76:09
uh i guess it might have been coveted or
76:11
something that went down from 125 000
76:14
down to 90
76:15
000 this year was it because of kobig
76:19
the majority of the declines were due to
76:21
corvid yes
76:23
yeah productive declines yes
76:26
and our biggest revenue for the parking
76:30
are the fines we make four hundred
76:34
thousand dollars in parking violation
76:36
fines
76:38
uh we do however not
76:41
all of it is at those parking lots that
76:44
we were discussing
76:49
i'm saying if we do have meters and
76:52
stuff like that
76:53
won't that money go down
76:58
well a lot of that the parking fines a
77:01
lot of that people who park illegally
77:04
down by the beach and in those the
77:05
center medians and
77:08
and things like that i don't think it's
77:09
just in the uh
77:11
the few pay lots
77:14
no i but in the center medium i guess we
77:17
wouldn't be giving them i guess we'd
77:19
still get something on
77:20
on these the parking meters uh one other
77:23
question before my time
77:24
the other day we moved some people from
77:27
beach maintenance
77:29
over to the sewer department not some
77:31
people but
77:32
uh the fees uh what we were paying it
77:35
was like twelve thousand dollars
77:37
um and yet in beach maintenance
77:41
we have one of the biggest overtime
77:43
budgets in the city that's uh
77:46
400 000 in overtime
77:49
by moving people out of beach
77:51
maintenance because they're not
77:53
needed and that was the the explanation
77:56
that was given they were needed in the
77:58
sewer department they're not needed in
77:59
the beige maintenance
78:01
i don't understand then how do we run up
78:03
400 000
78:04
worth of overtime and then get rid of
78:06
people
78:08
because they're not needed
78:11
okay um that's a that's a question that
78:14
uh roy
78:15
um i will have the department heads give
78:17
you a call
78:18
um why we felt the need to move people
78:22
and so that they can better explain the
78:25
overtime to you okay i i know you told
78:29
me you needed the people in the sewer
78:31
department which listen i'm not arguing
78:33
about
78:34
it's just i guess when i see a 400 000
78:37
overtime bill and then we're saying well
78:39
we don't need the people
78:41
i guess it just kind of bothers me all
78:44
right well
78:44
part of the overtime watch i will tell
78:46
you part of the overtime is that
78:48
we have projects that we do in-house
78:50
versus sending them
78:52
out and so even though we are spending a
78:55
lot of money and over time we do have a
78:57
savings
78:58
because we're using the staff that we
79:00
have but i will have the
79:02
the two people give you a call and then
79:04
um
79:05
we'll talk about that okay thank you
79:08
all right thanks for one i'm sorry last
79:11
thing
79:12
um on the parking i mean the bike lanes
79:14
on broadway
79:16
it's really nice they're being repainted
79:18
but if you allow people to park
79:21
and you allow them to put their garbage
79:23
out front and stuff like that i mean the
79:25
allegory is one of the worst offenders
79:27
you can never go by there without that
79:30
that bike lane being blocked
79:32
and all up and down broadway the bike
79:34
lane is blocked
79:35
at different places if there's no
79:37
enforcement then you're kind of wasting
79:39
your time making a bike lane there
79:42
because then it just puts the people out
79:44
into the street which is dangerous
79:47
so i'm asking for a little bit of
79:49
enforcement when it comes to that
79:51
and i know the allegory is a tough one
79:52
to enforce things on
79:54
but why have a bike lane if people are
79:57
going to park in it
79:59
will do all right thank you
80:05
all right who's next dave next is
80:07
kathleen o'leary
80:09
go kathleen okay okay now i'd like to
80:13
speak about the
80:14
bus garage okay um there's a few things
80:17
i know the city council is considering
80:20
uh the offer uh to put a popeyes in
80:23
there
80:24
but there's a couple of things i would
80:25
like to have considered
80:27
um first of all this is the main
80:28
entrance to long beach
80:30
and what you have when you come over the
80:34
bridge
80:34
is you have a huge mcdonald's there
80:37
with a big american flag which is fine
80:40
um
80:41
then you have the bus garage and then on
80:42
the other side you have taco bell
80:45
and kentucky fried chicken so the idea
80:48
of
80:48
putting another fast food restaurant in
80:51
the middle
80:52
just doesn't seem like the image that we
80:55
want to project
80:57
i know years ago when they were thinking
80:59
of putting the dunkin donuts in the west
81:01
end
81:03
everyone was saying not too big we don't
81:05
want box stores here and so forth
81:07
and this just seems like it would be
81:09
fast food
81:10
alley um i did a real little research
81:14
on the bus garage and it turns out that
81:17
the city
81:17
bought it from a t in 1939
81:21
and it's quite possible it was built in
81:24
the 20s
81:25
so you're speaking of a building that
81:29
blends in with the architecture of many
81:32
of the
81:33
uh landmark buildings in long beach i've
81:35
always noticed the clay
81:37
roof piece and the shape of the windows
81:40
so um and also i i've tutored in the
81:44
houses
81:44
in back of these um establishments
81:48
i don't think the people there's a lot
81:50
of noise back there just from
81:52
long beach road i don't think the
81:54
residents are going to be happy
81:56
with you know people lining up for a
81:58
takeout window
82:00
right on top of their houses so i would
82:03
like those factors to be considered
82:06
um i i do like popeyes i don't think
82:09
it's i think it's a good
82:10
as fast food goes i think it's very good
82:13
but um there's
82:14
plenty of open space in lido
82:18
and atlanta beach if they want to put a
82:20
popeyes there for this island
82:22
um and i would rather see the bus garage
82:26
stay and the other thing is if it's
82:29
possible
82:30
i would like to see a cost-benefit
82:32
analysis
82:33
of how much it's going to you know and
82:36
in other words we're going to have to
82:38
get another building for the bus garage
82:40
um
82:41
i think it's said that the environmental
82:43
study has to be done before
82:45
the proposal my question is who pays for
82:48
that do we pay for that
82:49
or does the buyer pay for it and i'm
82:52
questioning whether or not
82:54
it's cost benefit effective to make this
82:56
switch over
82:58
thank you
83:01
okay um so
83:05
just so you know uh commissioner morando
83:08
addressed this
83:09
earlier the any
83:12
if the city decides to consider selling
83:15
the property
83:16
the buyer would have to do an
83:17
environmental assessment on the
83:20
property if they want to purchase it
83:22
okay the city will do it
83:24
is going to do an environmental
83:26
assessment on
83:28
the site where they the garage would
83:31
likely go should the city sell that
83:34
property
83:34
so that's that's uh what the city is
83:38
doing
83:39
um but there have been several
83:42
expressions of interest in that property
83:44
one
83:44
one thing that you should be aware of is
83:47
that that property
83:48
is no longer adequate for the city's
83:52
needs it's not
83:53
large enough for what they need it isn't
83:55
properly equipped
83:57
um and also it
84:00
it floods uh a fair amount
84:04
uh in very heavy rains so
84:08
um even if they were to keep the
84:11
building there my understanding is and
84:13
john mirando can jump in if i'm wrong
84:15
but my understanding is there would have
84:17
to be
84:17
a very significant investment made in
84:20
the building just to
84:23
keep it habitable usable for what the
84:25
city needs it to do
84:27
and it might actually be more cost
84:28
effective to actually do a new building
84:31
because we can get grant money to pay
84:33
for a
84:34
a nice chunk of it
84:37
okay so but all that it would be
84:40
factored into all of this you know we
84:41
can't
84:42
uh obviously we can't just sell the
84:45
property if we don't have some place to
84:47
move the city's
84:49
you know uh maintenance operas uh
84:51
vehicle maintenance operations to
84:53
um because we still have a lot of
84:56
vehicles that have to be maintained
84:58
um and we're not going to we're not
85:01
going to do it in
85:02
councilman delorey's driveway so
85:07
so that's all going to be you know part
85:09
of the consideration
85:11
okay thank you john okay thank you john
85:15
all right uh we can't do it in your
85:18
driveway you don't even have one
85:21
so uh all right dave who's next
85:24
uh next is eileen hession okay good
85:28
evening everyone
85:29
hi ellie um i listened to the work
85:32
session the other night which was very
85:34
interesting i appreciate
85:35
you having the transparency and letting
85:38
us listen
85:38
in one of the topics was about the
85:41
martin luther king center
85:43
which has been closed and i know it's
85:46
important to restore
85:47
the programs that go on there but i have
85:50
a couple of questions i'll ask a bunch
85:52
of them in a row
85:54
who owns the center who is the director
85:59
who should be doing those safety plans
86:02
in order to open the center
86:04
why isn't that person being held
86:06
accountable to write up
86:08
the uh safety plans at this point is the
86:12
building
86:12
insured
86:19
sorry i think we lost i'm sorry about
86:21
that
86:22
sorry about that
86:27
do you have me now yeah sorry about that
86:28
get back okay where was i
86:31
the building insured yes and then
86:34
um how can voting take place there if
86:38
it's not insured and if it needs to be
86:40
kept closed so that's it
86:43
about them
86:47
peace among okay
86:50
you're muted simone simone you're muted
86:56
sorry i said can you please just repeat
87:00
the questions again i apologize i was
87:01
writing and trying to write quickly
87:04
who owns the building who's the director
87:06
who should be doing the safety plans why
87:09
isn't he being held accountable if it's
87:11
his fault that the building is closed
87:13
is the building insured how can we have
87:16
voting take place there if it's closed
87:19
okay so we own the building it is our
87:22
building
87:23
city property um
87:26
there is not a city director
87:29
currently in the facility we we did over
87:32
the years on and off have people in and
87:34
out of there
87:34
from the department of parks and
87:35
recreation and have done
87:37
programming up until covet or some
87:40
programming shared with them
87:42
um it is being currently
87:46
um occupied i guess you could say uh by
87:50
the
87:50
mlk center inc which is a not for profit
87:55
um they are responsible
87:59
for providing a schedule of programming
88:02
to us
88:03
and a schedule of programming
88:06
based upon you know what they're going
88:08
to be doing in the building and based
88:09
upon
88:11
um you know the types of activities that
88:13
are able to be reopened right now
88:16
so with that each
88:19
site safety plan the mlk center inc
88:21
would be responsible for their site
88:23
safety plan and it would have to be
88:24
specific
88:25
to the types of activities that they are
88:29
proposing so that's why we need a
88:30
programming schedule
88:32
and then the program schedule dictates
88:34
the site safety plan
88:36
they have as i mentioned during our
88:38
during the last work session they've
88:40
advised us that they will not be in a
88:41
position
88:42
to move forward until november 10th um
88:47
they we have been following up regularly
88:50
they have just obtained legal counsel
88:52
and legal counsel has just reached out
88:54
to us
88:55
the site safety plans are quite arduous
88:58
which is why we had reached out to them
89:00
in
89:00
july to try to help them along um but it
89:04
is their responsibility and their
89:05
responsibility to provide a schedule of
89:07
programming to us
89:08
in order for them to reopen um to be
89:11
open
89:11
you know just generally i don't know if
89:13
you've watched any of the previous work
89:15
sessions but
89:16
you know recreation was only permitted
89:19
to open
89:20
in phase four and that was mid to late
89:23
august
89:24
and then school type activities and
89:27
educational
89:28
was not permitted until the beginning of
89:30
september
89:31
so that's where we are in that now the
89:34
building is insured we insure the
89:35
building
89:36
um they also the mlk center inc
89:39
also does provide us with insurance uh
89:42
for the
89:43
activities that they do perform in the
89:45
building
89:46
uh the when they're approved um
89:51
insured oh and voting yes voting can
89:53
absolutely take place there because as i
89:54
said it's a
89:55
city-owned building it's a city facility
89:59
and we insure the building so it would
90:02
be covered under our insurance
90:04
and do they pay us rent they do not they
90:07
have not been paying us rent
90:10
so why don't we sell it to somebody else
90:13
well we don't they don't own it we own
90:15
it we
90:17
i know why don't we sell it to somebody
90:18
who will pay rent how long have they
90:20
stopped paying rent
90:22
well we wouldn't sell it to someone i
90:25
mean we
90:26
could rent it to someone however it's
90:29
been
90:29
i think we've discussed this on previous
90:31
calls it has been
90:34
i believe in estimated about 10 years or
90:36
so
90:37
since they have been paying rent since
90:40
they haven't been paying rent well
90:41
that's ridiculous
90:43
that's a good place to get some money
90:46
all right um that seems to be a real
90:48
mess
90:51
i have one other question not about
90:52
martin luther king
90:55
the erosion on the beach is amazing if
90:58
you've gone down and looked at it and i
91:00
know the
91:01
jetties are partly to blame is the army
91:03
corps coming back
91:07
i see john is on commissioner mirando
91:10
you want to answer that question
91:17
you muted john yeah no i just got muted
91:20
um
91:20
actually the army corps was there today
91:22
to do an inspection of the crossovers
91:24
and the uh
91:24
dune um uh
91:28
the dune plantings uh we did have our
91:31
consultant from
91:32
coastal protection engineering in
91:33
florida come out on friday which was
91:35
supposed to be the original date of the
91:36
army corps inspection
91:39
um and we did review
91:42
all the uh the groins and review some of
91:45
the areas that are eroding the biggest
91:47
erosion problems
91:49
that we're having are at locations where
91:51
the groins were not replaced
91:53
by the army corps um there is a certain
91:56
amount of natural
91:58
erosion that's going that is taking
92:00
place now we've had some storms
92:02
uh we are in the process of developing
92:05
uh
92:06
and approving a draft operation and
92:08
maintenance plan uh we will be
92:11
once that plan is adopted we will be
92:13
able to move some sand around
92:14
which will lessen some of the impacts of
92:16
uh of the beach erosion
92:18
but according to the army corps design
92:21
people uh
92:22
what's happened what's taking place is
92:24
just the reshaping of the slope
92:26
uh and over the winter there will seem
92:28
to be a lot more erosion
92:29
but as the summer comes again the sand
92:32
will place itself back in some of the
92:34
areas that it's missing
92:35
we're still always going to have a
92:36
problem with the groins that weren't
92:38
replaced because it's uh
92:40
as opposed to being you know 800 or a
92:42
thousand feet between groins
92:43
those locations are about 2 000 feet
92:46
apart
92:47
so that's why those look ridiculous that
92:49
the ones that weren't done it's like
92:50
yeah and you know what i'm talking about
92:53
john with it's almost three feet
92:55
it's like a big slope they they call
92:58
those uh scops
92:59
yeah we're getting scarp development and
93:01
then our beach maintenance people will
93:02
knock them down we left some of the
93:04
scoffs there over the last couple of
93:05
weeks because we knew they were coming
93:07
out to inspect and we wanted them to see
93:08
them
93:09
oh good uh we also just gave away a lot
93:11
of sand
93:12
to somebody the town of hempstead or
93:14
something can we get it back
93:15
no that's sand just so you know that was
93:17
not saying
93:18
uh we had an issue with the town of
93:21
hampstead to help us
93:23
when the army corps left the maintenance
93:25
aisle between the
93:27
uh the land side of the dune and the
93:29
boardwalk
93:30
was supposed to be left at an elevation
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of seven feet
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so that we could get maintenance
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equipment under the crossovers to
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maintain that
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that maintenance aisle because if you
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don't maintain the maintenance aisle
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what happens eventually it fills up with
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sand and eventually will take over the
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boardwalk
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right so uh what when they left
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uh they had left the elevation annoying
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so we needed to remove sand
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we did not have the large equipment to
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take the sand over the dune and into
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trucks
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so we we agreed to work with the town of
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hempstead
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and we took that sand out and gave that
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to them and that was
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how we paid for using the trucks so
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that's right that's worked
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out to our advantage thank you and can
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that sandal likely come back to us in a
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year or two right commissioner
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yeah this this yes absolutely you know
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the sand moves from uh
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from east to the west and uh there's
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the town doesn't have as many coins as
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we do uh even so
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we'll be getting a lot of that sand back
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over the next year very good
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um my final comment i guess which is
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beating a dead horse
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is that south nassau is starting to
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build in the hospital area there
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next week and i think some pressure
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should be put on south nassau to knock
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down the old long beach hospital because
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it is
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it's a nightmare that's all thank you
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very much
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good night good night
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all right anyone else dave yes
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uh next we have judy vining okay
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hi judy
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i am i muted unmuted no you're unmuted
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good
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okay hi um i think my three minutes and
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this in
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insane world that we're living in and
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i'm probably going to be schizophrenic
95:17
i'm going to talk to his
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director of long beach aware but then as
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somebody who lives here which is a
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intermingled but separate issue um
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in this crazy virtual world we're living
95:31
in i get to attend a
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an inordinate amount of uh zoom webinars
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and
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it's facts and it's figures and it's
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about
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trends that the state is seeing both
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in nassau county and across the state
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and
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our job i believe is to be a resource to
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you
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you guys cannot possibly know all the
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details
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we get i wish i didn't know all the
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details we get but
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the point is um as an example
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we have what two or three uh cbd stores
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in long beach it's not that cbd is
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illegal
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it is not but there is no one place
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uh no place in the united states that
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you can
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sell edible cbd products or produce
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a shake or anything like that and put
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cbd in it
96:28
um you could not possibly be expected to
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know that
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i i wouldn't know you know what to do
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about a beach groin
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not my area of expertise but this this
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is ours and we can
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offer it to you so it prevents something
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from becoming a um an enforcement issue
96:47
when it could have been a preventative
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issue
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you know if you're following my drift
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about that i mean
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i know a lot more about you know
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we again are geared towards underage
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not only drinking but other drugs which
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brings me to
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a change that we need in the code of
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ordinances and i think mr mandel was
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involved the last time we changed our
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social host
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law but somehow
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somehow we did not include marijuana
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given the fact that at some point
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it's probably likely that non-um
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medical use of marijuana may in fact
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be approved in the state of new york we
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need to get that into
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our code of ordinances and we need you
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guys i mean i know
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liz has been at our meetings i'm sure
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she shared it with you but just
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you know a lot goes on and so i wanted
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to talk to you about how we need to do
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that
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um other things have worked much better
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virtually
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our coalition meetings people who
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you know would have stayed in long beach
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but the building principle of something
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or somebody else we have like 28 29
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people so that's
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actually working better and it's not
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costing us for
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the pizza um
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and the program we have going on with
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the courts
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and the under uh open container law with
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kids has turned out to be um
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so much better virtually we always have
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the kids
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come into the building that we're not
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using now because we're working remotely
98:36
and you know my staff would go through
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it and i would have more discussion but
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going online forced us to make it very
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concrete
98:43
to be able to do pre and post surveys
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and then the courts
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because they want to limit contact as
98:50
well are asking
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anyone who completes it to put in a
98:55
page or two statement that's that's your
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three minutes judy
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oh okay well then i don't get to the
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person schizophrenic but
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can i just say that could we look at
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a mask mandate because if you go to a
99:09
lot of other
99:11
communities out east fire island
99:13
everybody's wearing masks
99:16
outside because the latest data
99:19
is that it's airborne and it can travel
99:22
up to 12 feet and if you go on that
99:24
boardwalk
99:25
and we would like people to right
99:26
because we really want them not having
99:29
gatherings in their house um almost
99:31
nobody's wearing one and you are not
99:34
12 feet away from people just the
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thought
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okay uh judy i'll i'll give you a call
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tomorrow you could
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whatever the other thing you wanted to
99:43
talk about you could just uh i'll get it
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from you tomorrow
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okay all right sure
99:49
all right um but thanks
99:52
all right dave anyone else our last
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speaker is uh leah tozer
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ms tozer
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hi hello how's it going
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long time no speak i know i just want to
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say
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like for the chamber stuff we're so
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excited to be working with you guys and
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for everyone should just know that the
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city council has been like amazing and
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john mcnally so i just want to do like a
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huge
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shout out um this has been really cool
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um but uh i'm gonna
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oh i think we lost julia
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well yeah i think we lost it well
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sorry are you back you bet i think
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you're back
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oh did you miss me so was i out of here
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yeah you went into a tunnel or something
100:53
you were completely gone
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after the shout out you dropped but
100:57
that's totally cool you can leave it
100:58
there you want to leave it at the shadow
101:02
yeah no i was just gonna say um about
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you know we're talking about like
101:06
you know making money having money so i
101:08
wanted to talk about the ice rink
101:10
and i wanted to know where is the city
101:12
with somebody ask a bunch of questions
101:13
you guys can just answer and i just want
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this like on the record
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um where is the city with the rfp for
101:19
the ice arena
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um i wanted to know why north star rank
101:23
management
101:24
um you know they had made a presentation
101:27
with an
101:28
economic impact study showing the
101:30
benefits of taking over our facility
101:34
and you know i just wanted to
101:37
you know see what's going on there
101:39
because i haven't seen it on the agenda
101:41
um and i mean
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you know i know that ours our rink is
101:47
losing money
101:48
and it's like subsidized by long beach
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taxpayers
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and i think like over 50 of the kids
101:55
that
101:56
that skate there are not from long beach
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so
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if it's losing money and the building
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needs a
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whole lot of money um like
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oh i think we lost there again
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well i'll answer the ice arena rfp um
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was voided and is being reissued um
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the rfp went out the responses we
102:23
received did not match the rfp
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and the responses we received was that
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we would end up paying them
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for the first year um to manage
102:34
and so the rp is being redone um with
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that in mind of them taking it over 100
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completely um and that they would be
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paying us rent
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okay so that sounds much better um
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and i just want to know who's actually
102:50
who's actually going to be
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um writing the rfp
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this is donna i am myself in corp
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council
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okay and do you guys talk to anybody who
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manages
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ice rinks like maybe somebody at
103:05
eisenhower park or you guys just like
103:07
coming up with it on your own
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rfps have a certain um guidelines
103:13
and our rfp is for the management
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and to really to take over the ice arena
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and so we don't need really to we've
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looked at other people's um
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rp's and our own rp for the tennis court
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we're not looking for them to come in to
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give us a service we're looking for them
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to come in
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to take over the building such as we did
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for the magnolia center
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so we're good um the first one that went
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out wasn't
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quite the way we wanted it to be get the
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responses we wanted
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and so that's why we're tweaking it and
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sending it back up
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okay that's awesome and do you guys know
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when you expect to put that out
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early next week awesome thank you so
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much you guys are awesome thank you
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all right take care anyone bye
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anyone else steve nope that's it
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all right well thanks for joining folks
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uh
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we will see you on october 29th for the
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special meeting
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uh you're going to join us otherwise if
104:18
not then remember the next
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regular meeting is not the first tuesday
104:23
in november because that's election day
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uh it will be the
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wednesday the day after the fourth
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so uh so we'll talk to you again on the
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29th
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and have a good night everyone have a
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good night
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get out enjoy uh beyond the beach
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celebration this week