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all right good evening folks welcome to
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our uh
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first meeting uh of april and uh
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we got a lot of stuff to cover tonight
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so let's get going
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hey good evening and welcome to the
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regular meeting of the council of the
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city of long beach held tuesday april 6
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2021 at 7 p.m
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on for roll call council member delorey
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president councilmember mandel president
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councilmember tristan
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you're muted uh vice president mcinnis
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president pando present
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let the record indicate i'm sorry let
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the record indicate the presence
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of acting city manager ron walsh and
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deputy corporation council richard
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barrios so now the salute to the flag
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all right how about councilwoman treston
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would you lead us
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please
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yes sir i pledge allegiance
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to the flag of the united states
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indivisible with liberty and justice
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foreign
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all right thank you so uh
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why don't we start with our uh city
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managers
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report um
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all right so uh i think we're going to
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start with robert
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bolenzino i guess right from the start
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paul zeno doing the best i can here john
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rob you ready so i'm here i don't know
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if you can see me but i'm here
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oh we can hear you though so go right
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ahead okay
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so the uh before you tonight
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are two settlement agreements and we're
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asking you to authorize the city manager
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to execute these agreements on behalf of
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the city
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these agreements which are basically two
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sides of the same coin
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will resolve the lawsuit by istar
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against the city of long beach istar
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if you'll recall developer the
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superblock or at least was the developer
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of the superblock
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uh sued the city in 2018 for 105 million
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dollars
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alleging that the city had breached its
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agreement
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in settlement of a prior lawsuit largely
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because it failed to assist i started
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obtaining the approval of the nassau
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county
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ida for its project
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we moved to dismiss
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that lawsuit uh the matter was fully
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submitted to the court sometime in 2018
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but we've been talking about resolution
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all of this time and the court it's
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before
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justice to stefano and the supreme court
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nassau county
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has held the matter in obeyance while we
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have tried to resolve the matter
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and the reason we've been able to
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resolve the matter is that istar's
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apparently reached an agreement
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to sell the property to engel berman
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and the second part of this agreement
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the other side of this coin
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is an agreement with angle berman so let
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me explain what both of them
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do the agreement with istar
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will drop the lawsuit isar will drop its
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lawsuit
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against the city and all of its claims
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the only thing it gets out of it is
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the ability to transfer
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to engel berman or to some subsequent
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developer if the engel berman
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deal falls through a credit in the
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amount of 2.5 million dollars toward
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building department fees
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which is the amount that istar prepaid
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for those fees years ago
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and i think in 2011 what happened was at
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the time of that settlement
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engel berman istar made two payment made
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a payment of 5 million dollars
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2.5 million of that was expressly
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dedicated to the prepayment of building
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department
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fees under this agreement
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angle berman would be entitled to that
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credit if it closes
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its purchase of the property with istart
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if the angle-burman
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contract doesn't close then a subsequent
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purchaser from isar would be entitled to
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the same credit
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provided that its proposal like the
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engle berman proposal
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does not involve any
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use or height or bulk variances
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for the property so that's the proposed
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resolution
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with istar
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on the other side the city has
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negotiated a
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an agreement with angel berman
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under which engel berman will do
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approximately three million dollars in
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off-site
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repairs to the city's water and sewer
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system
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as a condition of its building permit
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in addition uh engel berman will pay the
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city
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425 000 for
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uh its uh relief from the requirement
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of the nassau county code to have i
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think its eight inch
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stormwater lines and the engineer the
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city's engineers have approved
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the stormwater lines that engel berman
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has proposed
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what engel berman gets out of the
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agreement is the 2.5 million dollar
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credit
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that is paid for in 2011. so
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that's the agreement with angle berman
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i'm told that
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angle berman is ready to go to begin
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building the project
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uh there's still closings and those
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kinds of technicalities that have to
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occur
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between istar and engel berman once this
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these agreements are executed and this
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lawsuit is behind everybody
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so the estimate is three to four months
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before you'll see a shovel in the ground
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uh but this would this these if the
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council approves these agreements
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this will resolve the istar lawsuit
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and uh in a way that allows engelberman
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to build
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john um the council has any questions
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well we're going to have a um
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well tell you what since since the
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taxpayers are paying for bob's time
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even though we're in the middle of the
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city manager's report uh
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dave can we just move item five and six
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up to now so we don't have to keep dave
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on the line
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i mean uh bob on the line unnecessarily
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uh
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uh to wait till we get to those points
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and then we'll just uh continue on with
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the city manager's report uh after we
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take care of these items
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sure okay so item five we're going to
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jump ahead in the calendar folks
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so we're going to start with item number
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five which is a resolution authorizing a
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settlement agreement
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between i-star fm loans llc and shore
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road long beach superblock llc
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and the city of long beach okay so we
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just
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heard from bob what that is
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i just want to reiterate something that
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i think
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if there is one thing
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people take away from what bob just went
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through a kind of a
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timeline legal explanation what happened
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if there is one takeaway
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is the hundred million
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dollar lawsuit against the city
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goes away
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when this is if if this passes so
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right now potentially every man woman
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and child
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in this city um
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is uh is on the hook
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100 million dollar lawsuit for three
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thousand dollars every man woman and
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child
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in this city is what the liability to
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each individual in the city would be if
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this lawsuit went against
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us that goes away if this passes
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at no cost to the taxpayers
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so that's an important takeaway
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everybody should need to know bob did
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a great job for us on this
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and um and uh we
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we we are potentially dodging a major
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bullet here
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so um any any questions from any of the
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council members
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okay seeing none dave we got any from
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the public
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yes you do roy lesner okay where are you
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heading on mute yeah okay
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you hear me yeah okay um
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first of all i i don't understand why we
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can't see the agreement
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you know you you're asking us to put in
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you know some sort of feedback on
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something and we can't see the agreement
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we have no
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idea what these agreements say and it
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has the words of course
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you know uh according to such terms and
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conditions as may be necessary to
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effectuate settlement of this action
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which really means nothing now i don't
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understand how
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where we have to give back to 2.5
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million dollars
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the way i look at it i start so right
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right i'm gonna stop you we're not
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giving back 2.5 million dollars so
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that's
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so let me let me just clarify because so
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you don't go down the path
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unnecessarily i star pre-paid the city
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money towards the project what we are
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doing
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is we are giving credit for the money i
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star prepaid
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if this passes to angle berman
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so we're not giving anything back yes
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john we have the money
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it was released in escrow years ago
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to the city so we have the money we
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charge for building permits okay
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it's seven dollars per thousand this was
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a three and a half
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uh 360 million dollar project
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that's at least 1.5 or something million
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worth
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of building permit money which we charge
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for according to our code
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so for some reason we're not charging
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even though a building permit was
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granted
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okay now you still seem to be missing
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the point
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we are transferring
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the right the fees that were paid for
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the building permit to the new
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to the new owner that's what we are
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doing there is no reason
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to charge for the same building permit
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twice
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it's not the same building permit john
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it's nowhere near the same building
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permit because there are no variances
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it's a different building permit now i
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don't understand why we
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gave them the building permit if i
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started to build a house
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and i paid for a building permit and i
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said oh i'm not going to build the house
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guess what i don't get my money back not
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for the permit this is just
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building permit money and other costs if
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you read the stipulation it had to do
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with other costs too
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all right so let me let me see if i
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understand correctly
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you want us to potentially lose
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a hundred million dollar lawsuit to
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collect several hundred thousand dollars
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in building permit fees no john the idea
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of us
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losing a lawsuit that particular lawsuit
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everyone who has looked at it has said
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it's a ridiculous lawsuit
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it's going nowhere okay so every time
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somebody sues us are we supposed to just
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fold are you going to go in front of
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everybody and say hey look somebody just
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so sued us for millions of dollars
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so we better give them money i'll tell
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you what
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right right when you're the city's
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lawyer and you have all the facts of the
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case
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in front of you we will take legal
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advice
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from you but we are taking legal advice
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from our lawyer
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and our lawyer says it's a viable case
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he thinks it's
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uh worth settling this case for two and
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a half million dollars is that what
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you're telling me that this but
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you're implying that we're settling like
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we're losing something
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we are not losing something we are
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losing a hundred million dollar lawsuit
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is what we are losing
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so every taxpayer in the city is now off
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the hook for a hundred million dollars
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and what we're doing is we are not
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paying back
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anything not only are we not paying back
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anything but we are getting another 425
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000 in fees from them which we're
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entitled to anyway john and even more
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if you look at the numbers if you look
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at the square footage
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we're entitled to even more okay
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right you finish your three minutes
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you're complaining for the sake of
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complaining right now
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no john i just don't like the idea of
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giving away
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two and a half million dollars i don't
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like the idea of not being able to see
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an agreement
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and john it's not with you you will see
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the agreement once the agreement is
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approved
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so how can we ask questions on it and
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john it's not you
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you know i'm not coming after you on
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this please
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this is just i'm looking at the money
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and i don't understand
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why we're giving back the money when we
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already earned it
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by giving those particular building
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permits
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right i'm going to correct you again we
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are not giving back anything
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what you want us to do is you want us to
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double
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charge we are not giving back
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a dime in fact we're getting even more
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money out of this
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you are proposing us to double
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charge that's not giving money back you
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want to charge
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twice that's fine that is that is your
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opinion
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you're entitled to give it to us
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depending how his vote goes
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we happen not to agree with that we
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think it's
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it's reasonable if this passes to give
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engel berman credit for the several
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million dollars
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that istar gave to the city and then
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never built so we're just transferring
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it over
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that was the agreement that we had with
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i star
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we had an escrow agreement they would
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turn over the money to us
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if they disputed it they had the right
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to dispute it did you look at the
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stipulation the
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escrow agreement john right
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we're going to have to agree to disagree
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on this one
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that's i often do john that's right i
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know that's fine we're still going to go
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out and have a beer together when this
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is all over
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and that's tough so
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um all right thanks thanks roy all right
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all right uh anyone else safe yes kevin
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heller
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okay kevin go ahead and unmute
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yeah hello can you hear me yes we can so
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um i think i'm a little bit confused
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hopefully you could clear up for me i
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didn't
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see in the resolution any reference to a
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100 million
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lawsuit you're saying this item number
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five and six if approved would
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settle the haberman lawsuit or is that
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something different no haberman is an
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entirely different issue
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uh that's nothing to do with this this
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is uh istar sued the city
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in 2018 i believe it was
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for 105 million dollars for they claim
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the city breached
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its agreement by not um
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and bob if i'm not saying it right
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please correct me but
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um the city through a community host
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agreement was going to support
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their pilot application they claimed the
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city didn't support it
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well enough as at least the istar
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satisfaction
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so they sued the city for 105 million
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dollars
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that lawsuit if items five and six pass
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goes away the parties have agreed to
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them correct
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okay um and i'm just in the length i
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assume we're taking five and six
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together at this point
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yes okay so well we'll vote on them
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separately but i mean
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in chronological order yeah so in
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item number six no no no no we're only
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doing five right now
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okay fine that's the only question i
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have on five yeah you can come back for
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six and ask this
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okay okay perfect thank you sure
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was all that's all we had for this item
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that's all we have for this okay great
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so uh um
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all right all right why don't we call it
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and then we'll go on to item six
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okay so item number six is a resolution
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authorizing the city manager
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to enter to an agreement with
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engelberman at the beach llc
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okay uh continuation so the
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item five was the agreement with istar
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now item six is the agreement with engel
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berman which is basically the same
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agreement just saying now that we're
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giving
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angle berman the credit for what we're
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giving
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saying is not getting their money back
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in item five and we're giving
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angle berman credit for that money
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they're not getting back in item six
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so um any questions from the council
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okay dave roy lester
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okay there you go bro you got three more
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minutes
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wow okay just the mathematics i don't
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quite
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understand uh according to section 7-20
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b2 it's uh i guess two dollars a square
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foot
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is that right or is it three i heard it
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was three but it says in the
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code two
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i i don't i don't have to code in front
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of me so and i don't think scott is
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scottish
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i 7-20 the one reflected in the
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resolution
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dash 20 b2
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it talks about the cost of the uh
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you know the retainage the the on-site
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stormwater retainage requirement
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yes yeah is that two or three dollars
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just pulling up the latest one
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you can move on if you have another
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question um i'm gonna look it up right
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now
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and joe joe fabrizio is hopping on here
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too in case he might be of assistance
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just you know it's three dollars
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okay thank you
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and how how many square feet do we have
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here
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i don't know joe do you know the answer
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to that
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it's about 250 000. i don't know a fan
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but you could probably estimate it
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roughly
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well i don't know 560
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an acre times 6.046 i think
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if i remember correctly which comes out
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roughly to 250 000.
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at three dollars a square foot doesn't
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that come out to 750
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000
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i don't know if there's anyone on the
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line that can answer your uh
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joe it's can you it's a calculator
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i mean but this is more that the square
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footage is going to be much more in the
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building department's domain than dpw's
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domain at this stage of the game so
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you know speaking in loose terms when
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you're talking about uh
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litigation and other things um you might
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want to refrain
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no i'm not talking about litigation i'm
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just talking about the numbers
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it says that they would be required to
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pay a fee of 425
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000. but that also says notwithstanding
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any credits
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what credits are being applied because
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whereas notwithstanding these credits
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is what it says i guess they're talking
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about the credits above
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which are they going to receive a credit
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which shall be applied to its obligation
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under that section that you were
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asking for which came up with the three
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dollar uh
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a square foot calculation that joe uh
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mentioned
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so what credits are they getting for 500
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well
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for what 325 thousand dollars
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well earlier in the same agreement it
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says whereas those charges exceed the
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2.5 million dollar credit
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so
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yeah it says the city will retain the
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balance
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right it's
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john if you don't know you don't know
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it's it's not a big deal
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yeah this is unfortunately this is a
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more of a buildings department question
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i don't know if anyone from the
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buildings department is on
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dave is is uh dave frazier on uh dave
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freight though i'm sorry
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yeah i'm sorry is scott kevin's on by
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any chance no he's not
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okay all right
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that's why i guess i i just wish we
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would
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see the agreements before we vote on
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them
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but all right whatever okay john i i
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think you don't know you don't know i'm
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not well yeah
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i'm not gonna make up an answer for you
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yeah i don't have the answer yet to your
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question
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does a legal counsel have any comment on
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what mr lester's saying
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mr lester what's the question
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according to the code
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they're supposed to from what i just
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heard it's three dollars a square foot
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for this re uh on-site water retention
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requirements
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there are about 250 000 square feet
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in 6.0465
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acres each acre has 43
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560 square feet something like that
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so i i'm just not sure because that
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would come out to about 750
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000. so the number seems lower is what
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you're saying right
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yeah by about 225. roy are you talking
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about
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lot coverage or building coverage
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now a lot well a lot you're not building
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on the entire lot
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but it the water goes through the entire
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lot mike
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it's storm water the storm water just go
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on the building when it rains it rains
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on the entire lot
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so roy i i don't think that you're going
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to be able to get a clear answer as to
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what you're looking for tonight
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uh rich can we agree to get mr lester
23:56
the information that he's looking for to
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settle his
23:59
his curiosity and so that he can go
24:01
forward knowing that the city took the
24:03
proper steps
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sure yes what i can also say is is that
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remember that this is just
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the the the amount for the stormwater
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retains is part of the overall package
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mr lester so it's also that
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angle berman is also performing
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substantial infrastructure work
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for the project um going from broadway
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through riverside all the way up north
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on the island
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rick rick they agreed to do that now
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when you look at their application
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for the pilot they didn't put in this
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2.5 million dollar credit
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they did they put in that they were
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spending three to four million dollars
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for the sewerage
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this was all part of what ice what um
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ida looked at it was they're saying hey
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we have to spend this money
24:48
now we're being told well you're getting
24:50
2.5 million i don't think
24:52
i start i don't think uh the idea even
24:54
knew they were getting the 2.5 million
24:57
but whatever mr lester you can just let
25:01
me know
25:02
and i'll ju i'll just note i'm
25:04
channeling donna here um
25:05
whatever answer we get to mr lester will
25:08
also
25:08
um be publicly stated at the next
25:11
meeting
25:12
thank you john okay all right thanks roy
25:15
and who's next dave uh next is kevin
25:18
heller
25:19
okay welcome back hang on one second
25:23
all right there he is welcome back oh
25:25
thank you thank you
25:26
um i'm just curious i'm looking at the
25:29
the resolution and you've got
25:31
two and a half million you've already
25:32
collected three million in
25:35
work that engel berman has uh
25:38
agreed to do roughly speaking in 425
25:41
000 in fees and i'm sorry just bear with
25:44
me one second and i'm curious about
25:47
the last whereas the city entered to a
25:49
separate agreement
25:50
memorial in these and other terms so i'm
25:53
curious if the
25:54
other terms include waiver
25:57
of what we would normally collect in
25:59
building permit fees
26:00
and if so how does that compare to the
26:03
amount of money we're collecting
26:04
as per this resolution
26:10
i'm not entirely sure i understand the
26:11
question mr heller could you just break
26:12
it apart for me i'm sorry
26:14
i got it's like a two-part question so i
26:16
would say okay normally a bill
26:18
i would assume a builder comes in
26:19
they're gonna build they've gotten they
26:21
don't need this agreement there's no
26:22
lawsuit they're just going to build
26:24
they have to pay some building permit
26:26
fees right
26:27
are we waiving those as part of this
26:29
agreement because it says other terms
26:31
well we're not waiving them um the so
26:34
the agreement referenced
26:36
in this um in this item six is the
26:39
item five we just heard so we will be
26:42
collecting other building permit fees
26:44
that we're normally entitled to
26:46
so the idea is is you get the 2.5
26:48
million dollar credit as discussed
26:51
right then they do their three million
26:52
dollar infrastructure work they pay us
26:54
the water retainage fees that mr lester
26:56
mentioned
26:57
um they also angle brahma would also be
26:59
reimbursing us for city staff and
27:01
appearances and things like that
27:04
and yeah and anything over that cap they
27:07
would be responsible for pay
27:10
right that was over over two and a half
27:12
million they would pay the difference
27:14
they would pay and if it's less than two
27:16
and a half million
27:17
we keep it right
27:21
okay i understand that thank you um i'm
27:24
just i
27:24
i kind of have to just make a statement
27:26
i guess i agree with roy that it seems
27:29
um it's hard to
27:32
have any real input on these things or
27:34
questioning things we don't actually get
27:35
to read the agreement in advance and i
27:37
i do think after the last meeting it
27:40
seemed to be agreed that these things
27:41
would be
27:42
put on the transparency portal so that
27:44
we could see them
27:45
and and i did look there i didn't see it
27:47
um
27:49
that's because they put on the
27:50
transparency portal after they're
27:52
approved because
27:54
putting them there before they're
27:55
approved it's
27:58
you don't put documents up that aren't
28:00
approved so
28:02
approved documents are what goes up
28:06
i mean shouldn't it be put there a
28:08
preliminary agreement for the public to
28:10
comment on
28:10
mr heller yeah this is liz mr barrios
28:14
could you
28:15
um just clarify for mr heller
28:18
and others that are listening about
28:20
putting documents up on
28:22
the website liz can you speak a little
28:24
closer to the
28:26
better better
28:29
yes can we please um
28:33
can you please clarify to mr heller and
28:36
to those listening
28:37
about the agreements that
28:42
they're not available to the public
28:45
until they are approved by the city
28:47
council
28:48
all right so typically um i think we
28:50
talked about this a little bit last time
28:51
mr heller so
28:53
um this is with the firefighter moa
28:56
so the reason we put it up we don't put
28:58
it up publicly until it's ratified is
29:00
because essentially if
29:01
if it's voted down then it's completely
29:03
changed or if we have to tweak something
29:04
in the agreement
29:06
we'd have to bring it before the council
29:07
again um
29:09
so we usually wait till everything's
29:10
ratified to get it up on the
29:11
transparency board
29:13
okay so the but the city council has
29:15
each seen the
29:16
agreement in its entirety at this point
29:18
yes
29:21
okay thank you when did i see this
29:24
agreement rich i think i forwarded to
29:26
everyone via email
29:27
uh over a week ago i believe
29:32
things are not subject to the sunshine
29:33
laws that are considered confidential
29:35
and a matter of
29:36
contractual negotiations until after
29:38
they're approved according to the
29:40
sunshine laws
29:43
okay all right thanks kevin thank you
29:47
all right dave anyone else yes william
29:50
depper
29:51
okay welcome back mr depper
29:56
thank you i don't know it is confusing
29:59
though because i i'm reading
30:01
um up on it and it says that the city
30:04
council voted to settle the city's
30:06
lawsuits against
30:08
istar for 5.25 million
30:12
so i mean if you're lowering it each
30:15
year
30:15
settling it i mean that's a great thing
30:18
then paying out 100 million dollars
30:22
or even it's a great thing
30:26
this this yes so i mean i don't know why
30:28
people are arguing
30:30
they should just google it i put it in
30:32
the chat and
30:33
so many different stories come up this i
30:35
see coming
30:36
back up to 2014 from 2014.
30:42
yeah this has been a long long
30:45
litigated process that's a great thing
30:50
yeah this brings resolution to this once
30:53
and for all so
30:54
um
30:57
yeah that's really all i have to say
31:00
thank you
31:00
all right thank you
31:04
dave anyone else that was our last
31:05
speaker okay
31:07
so um all right i guess
31:11
uh then bob uh i appreciate it i don't
31:15
think we need to keep you any longer
31:18
did you adopt the resolution uh
31:21
that will come when we get to the voting
31:23
okay so but
31:25
but the q a portion is is um
31:28
over for this point so i don't think we
31:30
need you to stick around
31:32
i'll uh i'll shoot you a text bob right
31:35
thank you
31:36
all right thank you bob i do have
31:38
another hand that just went up
31:40
thank you hey oh okay
31:44
all right well maybe we can get them
31:45
back if we need them all right uh who
31:47
who do we got
31:48
um bill nuttholt okay
31:53
you're not here commuted ready there you
31:56
go hi bill
31:57
hello everybody good evening the
31:59
agreement with engel berman
32:01
i'm wondering if this agreement includes
32:03
the mandatory apprenticeship program
32:06
that's listed in section 7-48 for the
32:09
building code
32:10
if the program is indeed in the
32:12
agreement who and how will this program
32:15
be administered
32:18
i can answer that uh hey mrs knightholtz
32:20
it's rich barius um
32:21
there is no reference to that mandatory
32:24
one because it's already in the code
32:26
um so now the short answer is no it's
32:28
not in the agreement
32:32
okay the other item is i was going to
32:34
ask
32:35
for the members of the council to table
32:37
the item
32:38
until the agreement could be posted but
32:41
based on
32:42
mr walsh's comments i don't think
32:44
that'll ever happen
32:45
so i will not ask the council to table
32:48
this item
32:49
thank you okay well it'll be posted at
32:51
once it's approved
32:53
that doesn't help us see what's in the
32:56
program
32:56
if you approve it uh the agreement after
32:59
you approve it
33:01
but i understand the law i'm not
33:02
fighting the law
33:05
okay
33:08
just just uh uh throw it in there and
33:10
not to belabor the point but the purpose
33:12
of the sunshine laws
33:14
is to let the public see the actions and
33:16
what they were based on
33:18
uh for the public officials is how
33:20
they're working
33:21
the actual negotiations that could be
33:23
that are subject to
33:24
confidentiality are not really subject
33:27
to public scrutiny
33:28
because there are things in negotiations
33:30
that if they got out into the public
33:32
could ruin the ability to come to an
33:34
agreement and could challenge that
33:36
ability
33:36
plain and simple so the agreement itself
33:39
until it's authorized
33:41
won't be put out in case it gets voted
33:44
down each member of the council right
33:46
now
33:46
still has their independent judgment as
33:48
to whether or not they're going to pass
33:50
the particular resolutions for these
33:52
agreements so
33:53
that's kind of the way it works thank
33:54
you and also mr knothold the
33:57
apprenticeship program
33:58
um legislation which you refer to is
34:02
actually
34:03
um a long beach code that if it went
34:06
if it went to court it would not hold so
34:08
therefore it is not valid
34:11
but uh is that correct mitch well so
34:14
there's been some litigation regarding
34:15
um
34:16
apprenticeship programs like this and
34:18
mandatory potential apprenticeship
34:19
programs
34:20
um i think oyster pages recently about
34:22
two years ago or three years ago
34:24
uh federal judge rules to get ruled
34:26
against it so you might have to take a
34:28
look at our
34:29
at our code but i i have talked to
34:32
various uh trade representatives
34:34
and they are in contact with engel
34:36
berman um and other
34:38
uh elected officials to make sure that
34:41
um
34:42
the uh that that this job is as union as
34:45
it can be
34:46
very good thank you you're welcome
34:51
okay all right so
34:54
thanks bill uh are we done dave that was
34:57
it
34:58
okay so now let's let's go back
35:01
and um go back to the city manager's
35:05
report
35:06
so the next uh the next person we're
35:08
gonna call up is uh john gross
35:09
uh if he's available to discuss uh the
35:12
status of the uh martin luther king
35:14
uh issues that we have
35:18
john you're muted
35:23
good evening good evening john thank you
35:26
um the negotiations
35:30
are are still ongoing we've conducted
35:32
six
35:34
sessions um the martin luther king
35:36
center is represented by fred brewington
35:39
um we had initially uh
35:42
put on the table a proposed set of
35:45
terms and conditions for the lease
35:48
in a recent meeting
35:52
we are hopeful that um with some
35:56
modification the possibility of
36:00
closure on a lease may become more
36:03
of reality in measure depends on
36:07
um issues such as utilization of the
36:10
building
36:12
for not just uh mlk
36:15
center activities but other activities
36:19
uh we're relatively hopeful that
36:22
with some effort we will bring the lease
36:26
to closure uh i really
36:29
can't discuss anything further than that
36:32
in public because
36:33
obviously the lease negotiations are
36:36
ongoing and
36:38
it would wouldn't be appropriate to
36:40
discuss the term certainly once
36:43
a lease is struck then the document
36:45
would be available to
36:46
uh exactly john to the exact same point
36:50
as to the reason why we couldn't
36:52
disclose that the prior document in the
36:53
prior discussion
36:54
is that it would impede our ability as a
36:56
city to come up with fair negotiated uh
36:59
contracts uh yes and certainly
37:03
at the stage we're at uh in contrast to
37:06
the settlements that were just uh those
37:09
pieces of litigation we're still in the
37:12
midst of uh
37:12
negotiations um mr mr gross i just want
37:16
to clarify that you are negotiating with
37:18
a non-profit organization called long
37:20
beach
37:21
mlk center inc correct that's correct
37:24
and um they you're negotiating for them
37:27
to have a lease
37:28
with the city-owned building called the
37:31
mlk center
37:34
okay i would appeal to the board of the
37:36
long beach
37:37
mlk center inc to check with their
37:40
lawyer
37:40
to make sure that we can proceed with
37:42
this uh
37:43
with this lease which is what we we all
37:45
need to do
37:46
you know that's in we have to you know
37:50
a city has to have a lease for a bill
37:51
for an organization to be in a building
37:53
so um i hope we can work together
37:58
i'm not just not sure what the what the
37:59
hold up is thank you
38:02
if i may it's a somewhat complex matter
38:04
i think you're aware that
38:06
they've been in possession of the
38:07
building before the year 2000 well
38:10
before the year 2000
38:12
um and it but i did want to add
38:15
that the negotiations and the
38:17
discussions with the organization have
38:19
been very professional
38:21
uh very courteous and um
38:25
not rancorous at all it's just a matter
38:27
of
38:28
ultimately reaching a compromise on both
38:30
parties expectations
38:33
yes and i think i think it exactly
38:35
agreed mr gross and i also think that
38:38
you know
38:38
it's hard that they had to deal with
38:40
different terms before
38:41
this administration you know this
38:43
administration
38:45
you know says well we have a non-profit
38:47
in a building we need a lease
38:49
so unfortunately that's different from
38:51
what they're used to
38:52
so i can empathize with the organization
38:56
that they're having they may be um you
38:59
know
39:00
not not um not pleased that now
39:04
all of a sudden now they were required
39:05
to have a lease but
39:07
this is this administration has a
39:09
responsibility to make sure we comply
39:11
with the law
39:14
you know obviously i can't speak for the
39:15
organization but i can emphasize that i
39:17
believe they understand
39:20
that the goal of the city in obtaining a
39:22
lease is appropriate
39:23
it's just truly a matter of working out
39:25
the terms which are somewhat complicated
39:27
right thank you for your all your
39:29
efforts on behalf of the city
39:31
yeah it truly is uh
39:34
been uh very cordial
39:38
uh negotiations um certainly we've
39:41
asserted
39:43
the uh council's position the city's
39:45
position uh
39:46
as has mr burlington for
39:50
the organization with some
39:54
degree of elbow grease i think will
39:56
eventually get the deal done as soon as
39:58
possible
40:05
okay does anybody else have anything
40:07
you're on mute john
40:08
i'm on youtube no not you john you're
40:11
talking to me i was just going to finish
40:12
john's here john john john joel um
40:16
john gross this is my delorean i just
40:17
have one question
40:19
um so any improvement work that may have
40:23
been planned in the future at this
40:24
location cannot be done until this lease
40:26
is signed correct
40:29
well i i i think it's wiser that that
40:32
not occur
40:33
until we resolve the lease
40:37
correct so yeah the answer to the
40:40
question is yes that would have to be on
40:41
hold until we finish it but
40:43
there's certainly been some
40:45
identification
40:47
in the discussions of the need to do
40:48
some improvements of the property so
40:50
that
40:51
would be encompassed within the uh the
40:54
terms of the lease
40:56
right and uh because i believe there
41:01
the lease has to be finalized first
41:06
and then any and all possible
41:09
improvement work can then be started
41:12
sure we we don't want to interfere with
41:15
the good work of the organization in the
41:17
programs that they have for the
41:18
community
41:20
right lee your terrific director of
41:22
community
41:23
development uh monique powell
41:26
also has plans for utilization of the
41:28
building um
41:30
in concert with and also separately from
41:34
the organization we have to work out how
41:35
that occurs and obviously
41:37
uh it will be a lot easier to have the
41:39
lease done
41:40
so that uh before any uh renovations uh
41:44
take place that they can be phased
41:46
accordingly not to interfere with
41:47
activity right
41:49
thank you
41:55
all right any more questions for john
42:00
thank you mr bruce all right here none
42:02
thanks john
42:03
appreciate it thank you folks good night
42:06
john um the next person i want to call
42:10
is john mcnally for his
42:11
covet report even in
42:18
your voice again it's going nuts better
42:21
nope come back to me
42:25
you're completely over modulated
42:28
we will come back to him
42:33
all right so uh i'll then just give uh
42:35
the
42:37
portions of the city managers report
42:38
that i was going to speak on myself
42:41
there are going to be three of them
42:42
tonight the first one i want to talk
42:43
about or at least
42:44
couch for everybody is just the new law
42:47
that was passed
42:48
uh with regard to marijuana legalization
42:50
in the state of new york
42:52
so there's a lot of misconceptions out
42:54
there in the public as to
42:56
what this actually means so i want to
42:58
try and give
42:59
the city council and uh the members of
43:01
the public that are listening an idea of
43:03
the impact of the legalization so
43:06
um right now it is perfectly legal for
43:09
somebody to smoke
43:10
marijuana in their home and in public
43:14
places
43:14
where tobacco is smoking is not
43:17
prohibited
43:19
so with the exception of a vehicle
43:23
there is no legal consumption of
43:26
marijuana that's permitted
43:27
inside a vehicle section 1227 of the
43:30
vehicle in traffic will prohibits that
43:32
and for the driver of a vehicle if they
43:35
are found to be smoking marijuana
43:37
they could be subject for being arrested
43:39
for 1192 subsection 4
43:42
which is driving while intoxicated drugs
43:46
so uh there's a drastic misconception by
43:49
people that they can drive around
43:50
smoking pot
43:51
you can you can't do that and also
43:54
i would also let the city council know
43:56
that they should probably
43:57
amend for clarity purposes although
44:00
there is a section of
44:00
new york state uh i think it's partner
44:03
recreation's law it might be public
44:04
health law
44:05
um i have the section written down here
44:07
someplace that actually prohibits the
44:08
use of marijuana
44:10
in any place where tobacco products are
44:12
prohibited
44:13
but i would say that the city council
44:15
should consider
44:16
passing a resolution that prohibits the
44:18
consumption of marijuana or cannabis or
44:21
cannabis derived
44:22
products in any place where tobacco
44:25
in the city is prohibited so that would
44:27
be in parks
44:29
within i think you are 100 feet of a
44:31
school building or a government building
44:32
as well as
44:34
the ocean beach park so those are the
44:36
types of areas where you might want to
44:38
just
44:38
give a level of clarity in uh the uh
44:42
the city ordinances as well uh what is
44:45
permitted
44:45
right now is people to possess up to
44:48
three ounces of marijuana
44:50
inside their homes or on their person
44:53
above that amount is a violation up to
44:56
um five pounds when you get to five
44:59
pounds it becomes a criminal
45:01
sanction um eventually
45:05
you will be able to grow your own
45:07
marijuana
45:08
in your own yard at your own home
45:12
up to three mature plants and three
45:14
immature plants
45:16
per person but in no event more than 12
45:19
plants six mature six immature
45:23
in any single home now that will
45:26
that provision won't go into effect
45:28
until after
45:30
the legalization of dispensaries adult
45:32
consumption locations
45:34
has been finalized which is anywhere
45:35
from 18 to 24 months from now
45:38
so if we find people growing pot in
45:40
their backyard right now it is still not
45:42
legal to do that although it's a
45:45
violation and not a crime right now
45:47
so depending on how many that they have
45:49
if they have 100 plans under who you are
45:51
you're getting arrested for that you
45:52
can't
45:52
start your own marijuana growing
45:54
facility in your backyard
45:57
um so the interesting thing for
46:01
law enforcement is that the marijuana
46:04
used to be
46:05
a justification for a crime being
46:08
committed in a car and for no longer are
46:11
we permitted to
46:12
just search a car the entirety of a car
46:14
because it was drugs
46:16
uh because marijuana is being smoked
46:18
smoked in it
46:19
we are allowed to use the smell of
46:21
marijuana to get us to
46:23
uh pull a car over and and if we believe
46:26
that the driver is under the influence
46:28
of
46:29
that as well as to search the areas that
46:32
are accessible to the driver in his
46:33
immediate
46:34
grasp if you will and uh we actually on
46:37
the very first day
46:39
of this particular law coming into
46:41
effect
46:42
had a man driving around the city who
46:44
was
46:45
smoking marijuana while he was driving
46:47
in a car with no front plate
46:49
no back plate he had a suspended license
46:51
and a revoked license
46:53
and he also had a plethora of other
46:55
issues and he was promptly placed under
46:56
arrest and we impounded his vehicle
46:59
so word to the wise you still have to
47:02
register your car have a driver's
47:04
license and not use intoxicating drugs
47:07
while you're operating a vehicle because
47:08
we're going to arrest you for that
47:10
because it's a safety hazard
47:11
and it's against many provisions of
47:13
different laws
47:14
that being said the city is not allowed
47:18
to pass any provision to inhibit people
47:21
from
47:21
smoking marijuana where they would other
47:23
legally otherwise be legally allowed to
47:25
do so
47:27
notwithstanding the fact that within the
47:28
next 18 but in the next within the next
47:31
nine months
47:32
you have to either opt in or automat
47:35
opt out or be automatically opted in
47:38
to allowing locations within the city
47:42
to sell marijuana as dispensaries so the
47:45
conversation is not really around ethics
47:47
any longer
47:49
the ethics or the efficacy of smoking
47:51
marijuana has been decided
47:53
for us by the state legislature they
47:55
have said that it's legal for people to
47:57
smoke marijuana
47:59
the question becomes for the city
48:01
council and for the residents
48:03
we know generally speaking that when
48:06
marijuana is legalized across the
48:07
country
48:08
there is an uptick in marijuana use in
48:10
those states
48:11
and in those localities where it's
48:13
allowed there's usually also an
48:15
associated uptick in
48:17
in alcohol consumption in other drug
48:20
usage
48:21
most most notably cocaine usage and
48:24
that there is an increase in the calls
48:26
for services for
48:27
medical emergencies overdoses and the
48:30
like
48:30
as well as for police services there are
48:33
also
48:34
in some locations around the country and
48:36
some states in general
48:37
that uh localized crime goes up
48:40
more more street level type of crime
48:43
where you have
48:44
public intoxication stuff you have
48:46
things where people are doing low-level
48:48
crimes like stealing things or breaking
48:50
things getting into arguments and
48:51
you know lower level crimes but
48:53
nonetheless the calls for service goes
48:54
up
48:55
so generally speaking it should be clear
48:58
to everybody listening that whether or
48:59
not the city allows
49:01
the sale of marijuana to take place
49:04
legally and in a controlled fashion in
49:07
the city
49:08
has nothing to do with whether or not
49:09
marijuana will come here
49:11
marijuana will come here marijuana will
49:14
be used here marijuana will be grown
49:17
here
49:18
and people will be allowed to give each
49:19
other marijuana without charging for it
49:22
any place that they want you can't stop
49:24
somebody from handing somebody marijuana
49:26
in a public place unless they're under
49:28
the age of 21
49:30
or it is more than the three ounces that
49:33
is legally allowed to be carried outside
49:35
of your home
49:36
so go ahead right i just want to um
49:41
to clarify for the city council
49:44
that we have to make a decision by
49:47
december
49:48
31st 2021 whether or not
49:51
we will allow marijuana to be sold in
49:54
this city
49:55
that's correct so the point the point of
49:58
my conversation here and my points of
50:00
information here
50:02
uh i i've never been a supporter of
50:04
marijuana consumption personally
50:07
but professionally i am swoon to uphold
50:09
the laws of the state of new york and
50:12
the the city as well as the constitution
50:15
of the united states
50:17
the constitution of the united states
50:18
says that any person who has license to
50:20
carry a firearm
50:22
that's not the constitution but federal
50:23
law says that the any person who's
50:25
licensed to carry a firearm
50:27
cannot consume marijuana none of your
50:29
cops will be using marijuana
50:31
okay they're not legally allowed to nor
50:34
should any permitted person
50:35
who has a pistol license issued by the
50:38
county of nassau or otherwise
50:40
they are subject to the revocation of
50:41
those licenses based on federal law
50:44
that being said you will probably
50:47
experience
50:48
i can someone say with certainty greater
50:50
calls for ambulance services
50:52
for fire department services and for
50:54
police services
50:55
over the next however long it takes for
50:58
it to become proliferated
51:00
here in the city the question is does
51:02
the city want to allow the
51:04
sale of marijuana restricted it in
51:07
accordance to the city code
51:09
and actualize the revenue generation
51:12
that comes with that
51:13
so the way that works is there's a nine
51:15
percent tax on marijuana
51:17
i believe if five percent goes to the
51:19
state one percent would go to the county
51:21
three percent would go to the city
51:23
and there's associated other taxes on
51:25
top of that that also get divided
51:27
so the city would it's almost like
51:31
watching a flood happen uh do you want
51:33
to move your car out of the way or do
51:35
you want to leave your car there and
51:36
watch it get sunk
51:37
so um it's up to the city council
51:41
i am sort of torn between both sides of
51:44
this particular discussion myself
51:46
having been a person who's avoided drug
51:48
use my life
51:50
you know but if we're going to be paying
51:53
more for our city services
51:54
and we're going to be utilizing more of
51:56
our city services and probably need
51:58
more of those services into the future
52:01
the city may want to
52:02
seriously consider the
52:06
permission permissive sale of marijuana
52:08
within the city limits
52:11
under your rules you could make rules
52:13
where you don't have to have that within
52:15
100 503 a thousand feet of a school
52:18
or a house of worship which would
52:20
restrict the locations where that could
52:22
take place
52:23
and could then give you the ability to
52:26
tax it
52:28
know this four or five miles up the road
52:31
you go over a little atlantic beach
52:32
bridge
52:33
and you can buy all the marijuana your
52:34
heart desires as many times as you want
52:37
up to five pounds in your home and you
52:39
can get more than that
52:40
if the doctor says you need it so you
52:43
can get a doctor's clearance and say
52:44
this person needs to have 25 pounds of
52:46
marijuana in their house at all times
52:48
and they can being a little facetious
52:50
there i don't know how that would happen
52:51
but they can go above the five
52:53
pound limit five pounds of marijuana
52:56
is a lot of pot if you put just five
52:59
pounds of flour on your desk you're
53:01
looking at about three feet by three
53:03
feet by about two feet high it's a lot
53:05
of pot
53:06
so um i don't know why they did that i
53:08
don't know why they went so high in
53:09
those limits
53:10
it's not for me to question at this
53:11
point but it is something that the city
53:13
council should be
53:14
considering at this point and discussing
53:17
as to whether or not they want to
53:19
legalize the sale in the manner in which
53:21
the city sees
53:23
so uh even if the county opts out the
53:25
city has the city
53:27
can opt in for its own its own uh tax
53:30
generation so would um would uh you run
53:33
and rich work together
53:35
to to present this to the council the
53:37
options
53:38
sure i think you know i know rich has
53:40
been involved with reading up on this as
53:42
well as
53:43
joe lupo we've already had a few
53:45
discussions on it
53:46
i've been reading quite a bit about it i
53:48
got new york city's
53:49
opinion on it from their legal
53:51
department nassau county police
53:53
department will be coming out with
53:54
something shortly
53:55
and i also have some other information
53:57
that i could share with the council
53:59
from another law firm that was voted to
54:01
me through some of my connections
54:03
that kind of reviews the um the manner
54:06
in which
54:07
they are looking at it from um
54:11
from trying to get the name of well the
54:14
name of the firm is important
54:15
but i will forward the information to
54:17
rich and rich and i'm going to get it
54:19
disseminated to you so you guys can get
54:21
more and more educated on it
54:22
it's a complicated issue and we're going
54:24
to have people from both sides of the
54:26
coin
54:27
uh uh fervently for and fervently
54:30
against this
54:31
uh you know so it's going to be a
54:32
decision that you'll have to make
54:34
yeah by the way i'm sorry john all right
54:37
okay well i'm just going to say this is
54:38
something we're probably going to have
54:40
to have a
54:40
some kind of public working meeting to
54:43
to discuss
54:44
this this is probably not the place to
54:47
have this long discussion on it
54:48
um this is this is a a very
54:53
a topic that's got a lot of a lot of
54:55
angles to it and
54:56
we definitely need public input on this
54:59
as well
55:00
this is not something we're going to do
55:01
in a vacuum um
55:03
because there's there's a lot of
55:04
different sides to this so uh we'll
55:07
we'll in all likelihood uh have to have
55:09
a
55:10
you know a stand-alone uh meeting on
55:13
this topic because there's gonna be a
55:14
lot of opinions on this
55:17
so uh my point here was to introduce
55:19
introduce the topic to let you know that
55:21
the police department is
55:22
at least as far as we're concerned and
55:24
in line with it or
55:26
maybe slightly in front of other places
55:28
trying to make sure that we're not
55:28
making a mistake
55:30
and putting this simply a city at
55:31
jeopardy where our officers do something
55:33
wrong the day the law came out we put
55:34
out some guidance
55:35
to the department okay that's great the
55:38
next thing i want to talk about i was
55:40
asked to
55:40
discuss just real quickly is uh there
55:43
may be a notice by some of you that
55:44
there's been some graffiti showing up
55:46
around the city
55:47
um and we've been reporting it i've made
55:49
the officers hyper vigilant in that
55:51
regard where we're actually canvassing
55:52
the entire city
55:54
from beach to debate from end to end of
55:57
the city
55:58
and we're discovering a lot of graffiti
55:59
but a lot of it is stuff that we're
56:00
finding out is is older than we thought
56:02
but nonetheless
56:03
not detected because it wasn't something
56:05
that was in the forefront of the minds
56:07
of the officers at all times
56:09
it is now so every officer has been made
56:11
aware
56:12
uh we have been working with nassau
56:14
county as well in their intel
56:16
section we put out intelligence
56:17
bulletins maybe you saw it on our
56:19
website
56:20
it's also out on the county's website
56:22
we've been working with our school
56:23
resources
56:24
also to try and see if they know the
56:26
person who has the particular tags that
56:28
we are currently seeing
56:29
in the city and um you know
56:32
we're we're definitely very hyper about
56:34
it we put out extra patrols at night
56:35
during the hours where we see
56:37
certainly new stuff coming up as soon as
56:39
we see anything on city property
56:41
we notify our maintenance so they can
56:43
get out there and start to paint it over
56:44
the next day
56:45
we find that when you deal with graffiti
56:47
the faster you cover it the less
56:49
incidents there are of graffiti in
56:50
general
56:51
we've also had instances where it showed
56:53
up on some of our local
56:54
business establishments and uh it was
56:57
there for a day or two and i had my cops
56:59
go down knock on the door asking the
57:00
business owners would you mind painting
57:02
that over for us
57:03
you know we would like to make sure that
57:05
it's not something that becomes
57:07
something we're used to in the city and
57:08
we've got very strong cooperation from
57:10
all the business owners in that regard
57:12
so um that's kind of where we are in
57:15
regard
57:16
to that um you guys have any questions
57:18
on that before i move on to the last
57:19
part of my
57:20
report so the last part of my report is
57:24
regarding geographic policing
57:26
and a geographic community policing
57:28
model that we're actually putting into
57:30
effect in the city
57:31
so on friday of last week i put out to
57:35
the entire membership of the police
57:37
department a model of a
57:40
community policing plan that's really
57:42
geographic policing
57:43
what does that mean we are going to be
57:45
assigning we
57:46
we looked at the city as a whole from
57:49
end to end and we looked at historical
57:50
calls for service data
57:52
and where our city is looking what our
57:55
city looks like and the intensity of the
57:57
calls
57:57
as to where things happen and we decided
58:00
that the best way to deal with
58:02
the postcards is to realign the city in
58:04
a more geographically
58:07
common if you will a way for
58:10
calls for service types so we grouped
58:13
the city
58:13
into five posts we had five posts before
58:15
but they were generally broad
58:17
like one went from lindell all the way
58:19
across the city to monroe
58:21
on the north side so that was considered
58:24
b north so b north had north park in it
58:26
it had parts of the lindell community i
58:28
think i don't think you call that west
58:29
home i don't know what you call it up
58:30
there the residential area
58:31
over there you had the mlk center and
58:33
the rec center you had long beach road
58:35
and the residential area behind
58:37
the east side of long beach road on
58:38
monroe and things like that
58:40
and it wasn't it wasn't really
58:42
homogeneous in
58:43
approach for policing if you will
58:47
then you had other areas of the city
58:48
that did the same the west end the west
58:50
end car came
58:51
all the way out to grand that's not
58:53
common once you pass new york avenue
58:56
it changes the types of conditions that
58:58
you're having in the city
58:59
as i've seen through my talks with many
59:01
of the councils many of you
59:03
council members many of the civic
59:04
associations so what we did is we
59:06
realigned the city
59:07
with the input of every single
59:09
supervisor on the job
59:10
uh meaning all the sergeants the
59:12
lieutenants the executive officer
59:14
some of the civilian members and many of
59:16
the police officers as well so that we
59:18
can actually
59:19
get their input and they came up with a
59:22
design
59:23
with me to redesign those posts
59:26
and what the design is is that you have
59:29
to think of the city
59:30
in terms of when an officer is not
59:33
assigned to a call for service
59:35
when you're assigned to a call for
59:36
service you listen to the radio
59:38
the radio tells you where to go so you
59:40
could be on a which is down down west
59:42
and all and there's a call on the east
59:44
end and those cars are assigned on
59:45
something else
59:46
you're going to the east end of the city
59:48
so my post in nassau county when i drove
59:51
a police car was as big as the city of
59:53
long beach
59:54
one car you have five cars here but they
59:56
get tied up on different things
59:58
so you might have to run from the east
60:00
to the west the west to the east and
60:01
north to the south and any place in
60:03
between
60:04
the real question is is what are our
60:07
officers doing when they're not assigned
60:08
to a call for service
60:10
what are they doing when they have time
60:12
to go get out of their car
60:14
learn the residents learn the business
60:16
community
60:17
learn the faith-based community partner
60:19
with them
60:20
and know the particular conditions on
60:23
the post
60:24
that's the question that we tried to
60:26
answer so we redesigned
60:28
and the north park community you could
60:29
call it whatever you'd like to call it
60:31
some people's in north park say it
60:33
doesn't go past the railroad tracks west
60:35
it's only on the east side of the
60:36
railroad
60:37
tracks to about long beach road in that
60:40
area from
60:41
basically park to the to the bay but if
60:43
you ask other people on the other side
60:45
of the track no no we're part of north
60:46
park too so
60:47
there's a question there it doesn't
60:48
really matter you have a geographical
60:50
boundary
60:51
that you cannot drive a car through and
60:53
that's called the railroad tracks
60:55
you have to exit the community come out
60:57
on long beach road park avenue
60:59
and re-enter and that takes some time
61:02
but the like types of conditions on the
61:04
in this area
61:06
end the governor's executive order the
61:09
governor's executive order for order was
61:10
specifically detailed
61:13
to in the wake of the george floyd
61:15
tragedy to
61:16
strengthen the bonds that the police
61:19
departments had
61:20
with the minority communities across the
61:22
state and the largest percentage of
61:25
minority community that we have
61:27
in a group is in the north park area now
61:30
certainly it's not solely minorities and
61:32
secondly there are minorities
61:34
who live all over the city the cities
61:35
become more homogeneous
61:37
as time has gone by but the
61:39
concentration there
61:41
and the disenfranchised feeling that
61:43
they have
61:44
in that the police department in general
61:46
has never
61:47
partnered with that community can't be
61:49
denied
61:50
so part of this plan was making those
61:53
posts
61:54
smaller to give more intensified
61:58
attention and the officers getting out
62:00
of their car
62:02
walking those neighborhoods engaging
62:04
with the kids engaging with the
62:05
residents
62:06
walking through the channel park houses
62:08
going into the mlk center
62:10
going to the houses of worship when
62:11
they're having their their services
62:13
going to the rec center and the senior
62:15
center and all those areas in
62:17
in between so that that community starts
62:21
to feel as if the police department not
62:22
only cares for them
62:24
but they know their police officers and
62:26
here's the beauty
62:27
the police officers will be assigned to
62:29
permanent posts
62:30
day and night and they will all
62:33
communicate with each other and be held
62:35
responsible now to come up with a plan
62:39
to address the community's repeated
62:41
concerns
62:42
and repeated calls for service that's
62:45
never happened here before
62:46
you've never had police officers being
62:48
held responsible for that
62:49
it's not a punishment it's an engagement
62:52
and they're going to be working with
62:53
their supervisors
62:55
to request additional resources that we
62:59
me in particular will try to figure out
63:00
ways to give them whether it be
63:03
traffic agents or community policing
63:05
officers that were
63:06
in the process now of finalizing the
63:08
hire of two more police officers
63:09
actually three
63:10
one to get us up to authorized strength
63:11
and two for community service
63:13
to get them out to work in those
63:15
communities across the city
63:17
to finally solve problems permanently
63:21
to permanently solve these problems the
63:23
union sent a letter to the
63:26
local paper today that was uh
63:29
questioning things
63:30
and basically uh to paraphrase what the
63:33
union said is
63:34
um they believe that what the policing
63:36
model and the post model that we have
63:38
right now
63:39
works just fine and this is the most
63:41
sweeping change they've ever seen so i
63:44
submit to you the council and to the
63:45
public that's listening
63:47
characterize it as you will if you
63:49
continue right now to do exactly what
63:51
we've been doing your results will never
63:53
change
63:54
but rest assured they'll get worse
63:55
because over time the world will change
63:57
around you
63:58
it's time that we try to start to try
64:00
new things in this city
64:02
to engender the trust-based
64:04
relationships that i spoken
64:05
to all of you about through my interview
64:07
process and have been very steadfast
64:09
with
64:11
i personally agree that if you have 10
64:14
people working
64:15
you don't put out five cars with 10
64:17
officers in it
64:18
two in each car why because if one of
64:20
them needs a break well both of them are
64:22
on a break
64:23
one of them needs to do if there's a
64:24
call for one man both of them have to be
64:26
taken out of service for that
64:27
my philosophy is if we have 10 cars and
64:30
10 officers put out 10 cars
64:32
assign the 10 cars to the post and have
64:34
five cars to post and have 10 cars
64:36
doing various other things one to focus
64:38
on graffiti one to focus on double park
64:41
cars
64:41
two to focus on generalized enforcement
64:44
one to go out to a community meeting
64:46
things like that so utilizing our
64:48
officers
64:49
to get more efficiency and productivity
64:53
and i understand that i may have ruffled
64:55
some feathers with the union leadership
64:57
and maybe even some of the officers but
64:59
to wholeheartedly say in a communication
65:01
with
65:01
our paper that every officer is that
65:05
they have spoken to is wholeheartedly
65:06
against this is
65:08
not what i have experienced i spoke to
65:11
39 of these officers individually
65:13
in my time here i plan on speaking with
65:15
the rest and
65:16
as time goes by every day i try to call
65:18
in another one or two or stay late
65:20
or come in at night to work with them
65:22
and get to meet them
65:23
and i have gotten some very favorable
65:25
responses from them
65:27
and i firmly believe that the officers
65:29
in this department not only want to feel
65:31
as if they're part of the best
65:32
department
65:33
they want a leadership to usher them
65:35
into the 21st century policing
65:37
that we're looking for there's been a
65:39
lot of changes in law enforcement and
65:41
these officers feel attacked
65:43
they feel attacked by the by this by the
65:44
state government passing laws
65:46
that they feel are intrusive by local
65:48
governments by the even passing
65:50
legalized marijuana
65:51
is taken as an attack on the profession
65:54
right it's my job to lead the men and
65:57
women of this department
65:58
who are outstanding police officers and
66:01
to committed to
66:02
doing their job the best that they can
66:05
and to lead them to a place where they
66:06
feel comfortable in this community
66:08
and the community feels comfortable with
66:10
them that's the goal
66:12
so that in essence summarizes the
66:14
community policing model
66:16
uh you will probably be reading about uh
66:20
the community policing model in the long
66:22
beach herald
66:24
uh in the not too distant future and if
66:26
any of you have any questions about it
66:28
that i can address tonight
66:29
i'll be more than happy to entertain
66:30
that john if it's okay with you
66:34
your immunity all right any questions
66:38
for ron
66:40
um i don't have a question i just have a
66:42
comment
66:43
that my expectation is that the union
66:46
works with you on this
66:48
i would expect the same thing thank you
66:55
all right seeing nothing else all right
66:58
thanks
66:58
ron so does that conclude this city
67:01
manager's report
67:02
it depends on whether or not john can
67:04
talk without sounding like darth vader
67:06
oh that's right that's what you sound
67:08
like john
67:10
yes no you're going to be you're welcome
67:12
now all right i'll speak quickly because
67:14
i have kids screaming in the background
67:16
and i might turn into darth vader any
67:17
second anyway
67:18
so uh for the week ending
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yesterday the fifth there were 85
67:24
confirmed positive
67:25
tastes of kovid within the long beach
67:28
community
67:28
uh over that past week that is a daily
67:31
seven day average of 12.14
67:34
a week or .36
67:38
per 1000 residents uh per day
67:42
that is still um we've come down
67:45
obviously where we were but it is still
67:47
something of a plateau
67:48
we're not anywhere near where we were uh
67:52
late spring early summer last year and
67:55
the fear remains that we're continuing
67:57
to maybe go to a fourth peak so a level
67:59
of concern continues to exist
68:02
even though there's a much larger supply
68:05
of vaccinations going on
68:07
and even though we are down from where
68:08
the holiday peak was so just for a
68:10
couple of the key indicators
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uh the percentage of icu beds on long
68:15
island are 24
68:16
which is actually higher than we've seen
68:18
it's oscillated between
68:20
21 22 23 uh for at least the past six
68:24
months
68:24
um so 24 is all the way moderate um a
68:28
hopeful tick higher
68:29
um and just in terms of positivity rate
68:33
long island
68:34
is at 4.37
68:37
which out of the 10 regions across the
68:39
state is the second highest
68:41
um second only to the mid hudson valley
68:43
so
68:44
uh long island is you know essentially
68:48
helping to drag the state positivity
68:50
rate up higher
68:51
positive news we're pulling in on a
68:54
state level
68:54
about 1.4 million vaccines
68:58
every week are being distributed whether
69:01
it's a
69:02
first second or standalone dose
69:05
that's what's getting put in arms of new
69:07
yorkers every single week and becoming
69:09
available every single week so
69:11
um that is a positive but that said
69:15
supply is uh continues to be completely
69:18
outstripped by demand so it is a
69:20
challenge
69:22
to get shots um and even as it continues
69:25
to be a challenge
69:26
the eligibility levels continue to
69:28
expand
69:29
so um as of today all new yorkers 16 and
69:34
older uh regardless of any you know
69:37
comorbidities or medical conditions or
69:39
line of profession
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any new yorker 16 or older is eligible
69:44
to
69:44
register to receive the vaccine
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69:50
actually one of the better sources the
69:52
more inclusive source so the state puts
69:54
up where the state's doing shots and
69:56
some of the hospitals that they're
69:57
working with
69:58
the county does that but then they also
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put up the county shots but it's not
70:01
necessarily inclusive of the walgreens
70:03
and the cvs so
70:05
go to the city's website longbeachny.gov
70:09
covid19 and we've listed as many
70:13
resources as we can track out there
70:16
uh for folks to to go and try and sign
70:19
themselves up for a vaccine
70:20
it's still a challenge um if you're if
70:23
you're really having
70:24
an awful time give the city manager's
70:27
office a call
70:29
opportunities come our way through
70:30
whether it be south nassau or through
70:32
the county every once so often
70:34
um you know in my spare time i like to
70:37
continually hit refresh on my computer
70:39
so
70:39
uh if i can help out you know some of
70:41
our residents get an appointment i'm all
70:43
for doing that as well
70:44
and so the last uh coveted update is uh
70:48
new york state has lifted the 11 p.m
70:50
curfew for casinos movie theaters
70:52
bowling alleys billiard halls
70:54
gyms and fitness centers still not
70:58
restaurants and bars as of yet
71:00
um but we are at least in terms of
71:02
restrictions moving in the right
71:03
direction as long as we can continue to
71:05
keep the numbers down we are
71:06
hopeful for what that means for the rest
71:09
of um
71:10
you know our local economy um and even
71:12
city operations so
71:14
that's what i've got for everybody
71:18
okay great thanks any questions for john
71:25
all right here another that concludes my
71:28
report
71:29
okay you know what a report it was
71:33
sorry so long-winded it was just
71:34
important to get it out there
71:36
okay so uh all right let's move on to
71:39
our public hearings date
71:41
okay our first public hearing is for a
71:43
local law amending the charter of the
71:44
city of long beach regarding city visit
71:46
physician and health officer this goes
71:48
along with item number two on the agenda
71:50
and john i believe you have a motion
71:51
on the side i do uh have a
71:54
motion for an amendment um in the
71:59
very long paragraph that begins with any
72:01
swan police officer in department of
72:03
city of long beach
72:05
towards the bottom of that paragraph
72:10
it says
72:13
the city physicia physician shall
72:15
certify
72:16
that such injured or sick swan police
72:19
officer has recovered and is physically
72:21
able to
72:22
perform his regular duties his
72:25
should be changed to his slash
72:28
her that makes it consistent with the
72:32
other changes that were made where we
72:34
were making them uh
72:35
gender neutral so i i
72:38
guess they just in my speaking with rich
72:41
i think they just
72:42
uh they just missed that one so
72:45
do i have a second oh sorry
72:51
thank you okay um
72:54
voting on amendment um council member
72:57
delury
72:58
well dave also um
73:02
on the top it says a local law amending
73:04
the charter of the city of long beach
73:06
regarding
73:08
city physician this is all capital it
73:12
should be one
73:12
n okay that's that's a
73:16
that's a spelling mistake i can just i
73:18
can correct that okay
73:19
i just okay
73:24
all right um on this on the current
73:25
motion council member deliri
73:28
uh yes councilmember mandel
73:31
yes councilmember trusted yes
73:34
vice president mcginnis yes president
73:37
bendo
73:38
yes okay continue
73:41
okay so um
73:46
i guess uh rich uh i guess uh i don't
73:49
know if you and
73:50
ron are gonna gonna speak on this at all
73:53
i think it's pretty
73:55
straightforward forward we're just uh
73:58
kind of everything where we were kept
74:00
referring to a doctor
74:01
as he or him um
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yeah correct um so one of the other
74:11
changes were um
74:13
basically putting in sworn police
74:14
officers because there are other members
74:16
of the department who aren't sworn
74:17
police officers
74:18
who want to just make that carve out and
74:20
update it and
74:22
that's essentially it for item number
74:23
two happy to take any questions
74:28
okay any questions from the council
74:30
members
74:34
all right here are none dave any from
74:37
the public
74:38
no hands are raised okay
74:42
so we have one one just raised up
74:45
william depper okay
74:50
go ahead sir yes hi i do have a few
74:54
questions actually um
74:57
for mr uh commissioner walsh will you be
75:01
doing anything about the cars suvs with
75:04
such dark tinted windows
75:07
oh well miss stepper that that's that's
75:09
different save that for good and welfare
75:11
um oh okay that's the time no no we're
75:14
just taking comments now on this
75:16
this specific specific item but save
75:19
what you want to ask for good and
75:20
welfare
75:21
one for you you had mentioned about the
75:24
forms
75:24
and it's saying he and her well many
75:27
people
75:28
identified differently now so you should
75:31
include others
75:35
yes mr deputy that's a great comment um
75:37
that's something we're looking to do
75:38
internally when we're uh
75:40
we're going to be overhauling the entire
75:42
code and charter
75:44
and rolling it out i guess meeting by
75:46
meeting as much as we can
75:48
how does a saying go you eat an elephant
75:49
one bite at a time so
75:51
that's that's what we're going for only
75:54
because we just
75:55
updated our forums at northwell
75:58
and the united way yes thank you great
76:01
suggestion
76:02
yeah good thanks for pointing that out
76:08
all right anyone else dave that was it
76:12
okay let's close that hearing and move
76:14
on to the next one
76:16
second hearing is an ordinance to amend
76:17
the code of ordinances of the city of
76:18
long beach regarding police surgeon and
76:20
city physician
76:22
okay and i also have a want to propose
76:25
an amendment
76:26
for that one
76:30
so where it says being enacted by the
76:32
city council the city of long beach new
76:34
york as
76:34
follows and then it says section one
76:37
chapter two
76:38
article three division three section
76:42
14-212 the section 14-212 should be
76:46
struck
76:46
that doesn't belong here i don't know
76:48
how that got in there
76:50
but that's nothing to do with this
76:53
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76:55
so okay do i have a set
76:59
a second thank you voting councilmember
77:03
delorey
77:04
um are we striking section 14-212
77:08
yes we're not striking the section in
77:10
the code we're striking the reference to
77:12
it in the resolution
77:13
the reference to the revolution okay um
77:17
yes councilmember mandel yes
77:20
councilmember tristan yes vice president
77:23
mcginnis
77:24
yes president bendo yes
77:27
okay continue okay so i guess uh
77:31
our same team here rich and ron that's
77:34
right
77:34
um so the purpose of this i guess
77:36
overhaul of this portion of the code
77:38
was to kind of um update the code in
77:41
line with the practice
77:42
in the police department with the police
77:44
police surgeon um so we included
77:46
obviously the commissioner of police as
77:47
a point of contact
77:49
with the police surgeon and basically
77:51
just tweaked it so that
77:54
as it reads it's more in line with how
77:55
we actually interact and work with the
77:58
uh with the police surgeon
78:00
anything you want to add on that ron no
78:03
it took uh some work with us i know that
78:05
we've been working hand in hand on this
78:06
and it reflects exactly what we need
78:08
going forward
78:09
so uh i appreciate the hard work with it
78:11
thanks richard
78:14
well some i think we've been finding
78:15
some of this stuff hasn't been updated
78:17
in
78:17
many many years so as times changed the
78:21
uh
78:22
the verbiage behind it didn't
78:27
you're very kind years
78:30
all right centuries half centuries
78:32
sometimes yeah
78:34
it's supposed to surprise it doesn't
78:37
refer to the
78:38
police officers driving around in model
78:39
t's oh we haven't just found it yet it
78:42
will be there
78:43
what uh okay any uh any questions from
78:46
the council
78:48
all right seeing none day from the
78:51
public
78:53
at this time okay hearing none let's
78:57
close that hearing and move on to the
78:59
next one
79:00
and our final public hearing is for a
79:01
resolution granting a waiver of wall
79:03
street parking requirements for promise
79:04
58a
79:05
street floor for an online apparel
79:08
business
79:10
now if the owner is on please raise your
79:12
hand so i can i can unmute you
79:16
yep there we are
79:21
mr cube there all right hi mr kubla
79:31
all right so you could tell us uh miss
79:33
cooper could you tell us a little bit
79:34
about your business
79:40
well he's unmuted but we're not hearing
79:48
them
79:54
okay he muted he now he's unmuted again
80:06
yeah you're very faint yeah there's
80:08
there's something in the background i
80:10
can yeah
80:11
very very faint dave can mr cooper
80:15
cooper sign off and sign back on
80:20
yeah you can always sign off the sign
80:21
back on um or
80:23
you could try changing your audio option
80:25
there's an option there to use the uh
80:26
the phone option you may want to try
80:29
that and
80:30
if you want to give that a shot we can
80:31
come back we could circle back to you as
80:33
after you reconnect
80:39
um yeah he just muted and unmuted again
80:45
yeah unfortunately we're still not
80:46
hearing you so maybe uh
80:48
what we'll do is uh maybe dis uh try
80:51
disconnecting and reconnecting and we'll
80:53
just as soon as you come back on we'll
80:54
uh
80:56
we'll circle right back to you mr i'm
81:00
going to mute you right now but i'm
81:01
going to still leave you
81:02
um and able to talk as soon as you're
81:05
able to get back on
81:06
if you've solved your audio issue just
81:08
raise your hand and we'll recall the uh
81:10
we'll circle back to this item
81:14
okay all right so we'll leave that
81:16
hearing open for now
81:18
um and then we'll wait till he talks
81:21
before we take any public comments so
81:23
people know
81:24
about the business so uh why don't we
81:27
move on i guess
81:28
to yeah we'll go on to the regular
81:30
calendar okay so first items approval of
81:32
minutes
81:33
prior meeting february 2nd 2021 do i
81:36
have an
81:36
uh a motion to approve
81:39
i will second
81:43
i will voting council member delorey
81:46
yes councilmember mandel yes
81:49
councilmember treston
81:50
yes vice president mcginnis yes
81:53
president bendo yes okay item two is a
81:57
local law amending the charter of the
81:58
city of long beach
81:59
regarding city physician and health
82:00
officer a hearing has been held on this
82:02
item already
82:02
item three is an ordinance to amend the
82:04
code of ordinances of the city of long
82:05
beach regarding police sergeant and city
82:07
physician
82:08
a hearing has been held on this item
82:09
already item four
82:11
is a resolution
82:15
let's come back wait for mr cooper to
82:16
come back uh
82:18
we're going to um i see he popped back
82:21
up
82:22
oh he's back scribbler are you uh are
82:24
you able to go ahead and try to unmute
82:26
see if we can hear you
82:31
uh we're still not hearing ya
82:38
hmm mr but what i suggest is in your
82:41
audio options there should be an option
82:43
to switch to phone audio
82:45
you may want to switch to that and see
82:46
if that clears up your audio problems
82:51
because we're not able to hear you
82:59
all right we'll start we'll we'll have
83:00
to circle back again all right so we'll
83:02
come
83:02
we'll come back to item four and it's
83:04
associated
83:05
uh items five and six we already called
83:07
at the beginning of the meeting item
83:08
seven is a resolution fixing and
83:10
providing for the 2021 season of the
83:12
ocean beach park
83:14
okay um
83:19
so i think that's going to be mr brand
83:26
that's me there it is our uh recreate
83:28
parks and recreation commissioner
83:31
okay this is just uh formally
83:33
introducing the official beach park
83:35
season
83:36
uh and setting the dates for operation
83:39
uh everybody got to enjoy a taste of it
83:42
today i hope
83:43
some is right around the corner that's
83:46
it and can't wait for it
83:50
so any questions from the council
83:56
all right any questions from the public
83:58
dave
84:00
i have no hands raised okay
84:04
then let's move on and see if mr cooper
84:06
came back again
84:08
he is back let's see if we can get him
84:11
this time
84:14
hold on
84:20
mr coogler
84:23
mr coobler
84:27
now we're getting a very very faithful
84:28
yeah we're getting some very faint
84:30
background static noise we could hear it
84:34
sounds like you're trying to talk but
84:35
we're just not hearing you
84:37
um dave is there maybe a way to
84:41
come into a telephone yeah there's a
84:43
there's there there is an option
84:45
if if you in your audio settings there
84:47
should be a setting there to
84:49
switch to phone audio at which point it
84:51
will give you a phone number to
84:52
dial into and then you can um you can
84:56
try calling in that way
85:04
um this could be i'm going to try
85:05
reaching out by email in a minute so
85:08
we'll circle back to you in a minute
85:11
okay we're gonna get this done
85:16
okay so um let's move on i guess item
85:20
eight
85:20
resolution authorizing the city managed
85:22
to enter an agreement for providing for
85:23
an electronic beach pass solution
85:26
okay i'm going to guess joe that's you
85:28
again that would be me
85:31
if you paid attention to the last two
85:34
work sessions
85:35
you know that we've offered the floor to
85:39
three out of the four vendors who
85:42
submitted proposals
85:43
for the electronic beach passes happy to
85:46
announce here now
85:48
that we're looking for the council to
85:51
pass the uh originally preferred vendor
85:54
usd direct
85:56
uh and we jump into uh
86:00
a new realm for uh for the cities of
86:02
long beach and
86:04
offering a solution uh taking us into
86:06
the future with
86:07
our famous beach passes
86:11
okay we're coming to the game a little
86:13
late and a little slow
86:14
but we're coming to the game at least uh
86:16
just one question joe uh
86:18
they'll still be the old traditional uh
86:21
card
86:22
passes sold as well for people that uh
86:24
maybe don't have smartphones or
86:27
for whatever reason like the old
86:29
touchy-feely
86:30
feel of that plastic in their hand yes
86:33
of course
86:34
okay if you want to purchase the beach
86:36
passes the way you've always purchased
86:37
them
86:38
uh waiting online for a couple of hours
86:40
in the wreck parking lot
86:41
before the first nice weekend of the
86:43
season you're more than welcome to do
86:44
that
86:45
however we'd love to encourage you to
86:47
try and take advantage and
86:49
please be on the lookout for uh this new
86:52
solution
86:53
that i think people are going to be very
86:54
happy with
86:56
okay and we expect this will be up and
86:58
running in plenty of time for the beach
87:00
season right for people to buy their
87:01
passes
87:02
absolutely we're gonna run them you know
87:05
uh congruently with one another for
87:07
uh the the opening date for the sale of
87:10
the
87:10
uh hard pass will coincide with
87:14
the um the the electronic beach passes
87:18
great okay all right any questions from
87:21
the council members
87:23
um i just have two questions john or joe
87:27
um the date for the hard pass sale do we
87:30
know that yet
87:32
may 3rd okay so this will go live
87:36
on and before may 3rd that's correct
87:39
and we'll go live before it mike we
87:42
can't give up the color of the passes
87:43
before we start telling them buddy you
87:45
know that
87:48
and um why would we want to enter a
87:52
three-year agreement
87:56
that's a good question i could
88:01
uh certainly reach out to usc direct in
88:03
terms of the
88:04
um you know the language of that
88:07
contract with them
88:09
uh i'm i'm not i'm not familiar with why
88:12
well my concern is this um
88:17
we're we're entering into we're entering
88:20
into something that really we haven't
88:22
seen
88:24
um live on a day-to-day basis
88:29
and to lock it in for three years that
88:31
is my particular concern i would be more
88:33
comfortable
88:34
with just one year at this point but
88:37
that's
88:37
i'm that's only my concern yeah i mean i
88:40
think i think
88:40
mike and that you know it is something
88:42
that the city manager can discuss with
88:44
usc direct but
88:45
i think there's there's a mutual
88:48
um there's a mutual risk involved here
88:54
right so there there is they are
88:56
building out a platform they're making
88:57
an
88:58
upfront investment uh the city
89:02
you know is is willing to to make a
89:04
transition to have this option available
89:06
to the residents
89:08
so you know we're not locking into a
89:10
decade
89:12
um but if we're looking to pursue this
89:14
avenue i think any
89:15
any particular vendor is going to look
89:17
for some level
89:18
um of commitment in order to make sure
89:21
that
89:22
their upfront investment um becomes
89:24
worthwhile one you know no
89:26
nobody has more invested in them making
89:28
sure
89:29
that this works than usc directs us or
89:33
whichever vendor the city ultimately
89:36
chooses
89:38
also to your concern right so your
89:39
concern is basically
89:41
let's assume for a moment that we're not
89:42
talking about usc direct you're talking
89:44
about any vendor
89:45
correct okay so if there's a situation
89:49
in which they don't perform to our
89:50
satisfaction is that your concern
89:52
yes sir so we can always structure a
89:54
deal in which we protect the city's
89:56
interests to do so without kind of
89:58
you know we can we can do a three-year
89:59
deal with protections
90:01
on performance and things like that
90:03
those are things we can discuss
90:04
um with usc direct yeah my concern is
90:08
this
90:08
um it's new they're building we we're
90:11
not trying it out
90:12
it seems to be going live thankfully
90:14
it'll all work out fine
90:16
however the
90:19
the plan or the the fallback
90:22
if some glitch does happen because like
90:26
mr mcnally says they're investing in
90:28
building
90:28
i'm concerned about um an opt-out
90:34
okay okay um i
90:38
i think this uh i think this goes to mr
90:41
lester's general question is that the
90:43
council has not seen this agreement
90:47
and i'm thinking the reason we haven't
90:49
seen it is because it's not over twenty
90:51
thousand dollars because it's based on
90:53
user fees
90:54
is is that correct well so understand
90:57
this is the result of the rfp right so
90:59
the rfp sets forth
91:00
some of the general you know bottom line
91:03
conditions
91:04
um and and kind of puts that and lumps
91:06
it into an actual contract
91:08
which usc direct and the city will
91:10
ultimately finalize and negotiate
91:12
and execute but with that rfp conditions
91:15
being the bare minimum of what we're
91:16
getting out of it
91:18
so we won't see the contract i can
91:21
forward short it to your attention
91:22
before it's signed yeah
91:24
i can but it's not negotiated yet
91:28
not completely no right
91:31
meaning it hasn't been inked and they
91:33
haven't signed it yet but
91:36
we've been in discussions for sure um i
91:39
also um noticed that in the
91:42
preliminary 2122 budget
91:46
there's an amount for beach charges
91:48
which is the revenue
91:51
but i can't find the associated
91:54
uh line item or unaware rather of the
91:58
associated line item
91:59
that covers the used user fees so i
92:03
i can't tell if it's a contra revenue
92:05
account or an
92:06
expense account so
92:10
that would basically equal a net each
92:13
revenue number
92:16
so i can't even back back into the user
92:18
fees right now
92:20
all right i just saw ena pop up so i
92:23
assume she's gonna jump in on that
92:29
huh yep good evening uh yeah karen
92:32
i just want to make sure that i
92:34
understand your question correctly
92:36
you're asking what's the amount of the
92:39
user fee
92:41
in total i'm asking
92:45
basically not necessarily the amount but
92:48
where
92:49
where the account where the expense for
92:51
the user fee is budgeted in the
92:54
21 22 budget in a people's individual
92:59
home budget that doesn't mean it's going
93:02
to be carried it's going to be carried
93:03
by the
93:04
by the purchasers of the tickets
93:08
yeah karen if you remember they add a
93:10
service fee
93:11
on when you purchase the ticket so
93:14
it doesn't cost the city anything so
93:17
whatever the fee i'm just gonna i don't
93:18
know what it is i'm throwing out a
93:19
random amount but if you buy a 15
93:22
beach ticket you may pay a dollar
93:24
service fee to buy it online
93:27
so the the purchaser is paying the fee
93:30
so the there's no fees to the city no
93:34
no perceived cost except capital costs
93:36
is that correct
93:38
uh no perceived cost um
93:41
other than investment in the
93:44
those devices that will read the passes
93:48
um and um yeah
93:51
so so we can share with you what the
93:54
percentages
93:55
are of those user fees what people will
93:57
be paying
93:59
uh based on the level of the past
94:02
but the city is not carrying god that
94:06
expands
94:07
okay but that's still a negotiation so
94:09
you don't want to reveal it
94:11
just to you
94:15
i don't know it means that if the
94:17
legalities are not allowing it
94:19
that that no i mean i can i can say that
94:22
the devices uh councilwoman mcginnis are
94:26
you know so we have
94:27
stripped down iphones that the providers
94:30
have
94:30
all offered us for free um
94:34
you know and it's basically paying for
94:36
the the plan
94:38
and and you're looking at you know
94:40
something along the
94:41
lines of thirteen to fifteen thousand
94:42
dollars a year
94:44
uh for the combined plans in order to
94:47
step up all of the beach entrances with
94:49
the scanners
94:51
which are in regular phone costs right
94:56
yeah it's in the contractual services
94:58
and id department budget
95:01
very good thank you sure
95:05
okay any more questions from the council
95:10
all right seeing none what about from
95:12
the public dave
95:14
uh yes we have roy luster okay
95:19
on yes you are okay uh karen you're
95:22
right you won't see the contract
95:24
and that's i guess what's bothering me
95:27
what you guys are doing basically is
95:28
telling the city manager
95:30
she is authorized to negotiate the
95:32
contract she's authorized to enter into
95:34
it
95:35
you don't have to have anything to do
95:37
with it you don't have to see it
95:38
matter of fact if you did see it it
95:41
would have to be in a public meeting
95:43
so you know and she can put in whatever
95:47
terms and conditions she
95:48
deems proper now i i know that's the way
95:52
you get around the open meetings law so
95:54
you don't have to
95:55
show a contract because you guys are not
95:57
negotiating the contract
95:59
the city manager is negotiating it
96:01
you're not looking at the contract the
96:03
city manager is
96:05
but i don't know that the city manager
96:07
has that right
96:08
under the um under the charter
96:11
the city manager has no legislative
96:15
powers or duties
96:16
and negotiating contracts like this that
96:19
seem to be
96:21
the purview of the city council
96:24
doesn't seem to be something that she
96:26
should be doing
96:28
it seems that that's why we elected a
96:30
council
96:31
to actually look at these contracts and
96:33
decide things
96:35
but am i missing something here
96:39
is that what's happening
96:42
right there i think i think the city
96:44
manager is authorized to enter into
96:46
contracts under the charter
96:48
um it's kind of a give and take so she's
96:50
you know donna currently is
96:52
and and ron walsh is acting as the
96:54
acting chief executive officer of the
96:56
city
96:57
right uh negotiating contracts and
96:59
coming to terms or agreements in
97:00
principle
97:01
is certainly part of part and parcel of
97:04
the job
97:05
ultimately has to authorize the
97:08
authorizer to enter into those contracts
97:10
depending on what the circumstances are
97:13
but yes the the check is is that the
97:15
council has the ability to vote on it
97:17
no they don't they they voted now
97:21
in order for them to vote on it it would
97:23
have to be out in the public we would
97:25
have to see it
97:27
the open meetings law is completely
97:29
clear about that
97:31
negotiations i agree with you on but if
97:33
they're voting on a contract
97:35
we have a right to see it and they're
97:38
not voting on the contract
97:39
all they voted on was authorizing her to
97:42
enter into the contract
97:43
whatever she deserves to be dean or
97:46
whatever she deems to be proper
97:48
that's what the resolution says that's
97:50
what the other two number
97:52
five and six say two
97:55
you can understand that i mean listen
97:56
the council appointed donna
97:58
i imagine they trust her to negotiate
98:00
certain things um
98:02
i get your point completely mr lester
98:03
i'm not i just don't see it in the
98:05
charter
98:07
you know it shall have no other
98:09
legislative powers or duties it's pretty
98:11
clear
98:12
but if the legislature authorizes her to
98:15
do it then
98:16
they're authorizing her to do it right
98:18
that's
98:19
i understand your point i'm just saying
98:21
they're voting on whether or not to
98:22
authorize her
98:23
negotiate and enter into the contract so
98:26
all contracts can be
98:28
she can be authorized to enter into them
98:29
and we don't ever have to see any of
98:32
them
98:36
it's an odd way of doing things all
98:38
right thanks
98:41
okay anyone else dave yes judy vining
98:45
okay
98:51
uh i lost her there yeah i don't see her
98:55
just dropped off there she is
98:58
there she is
99:03
judy god you got on mew judy
99:07
there you go okay um
99:12
whether it's electronic or a plastic
99:14
pass
99:17
have the amount of family
99:21
memberships or whatever we're calling
99:22
them
99:24
gone up down or stayed the same because
99:26
it's always been a concern of mine in
99:28
terms of
99:29
revenue that you can buy up to three
99:32
family passes without any further proof
99:35
of identity
99:36
whereas multiple years ago when i had
99:38
small kids i had to bring their birth
99:39
certificates
99:40
um and it's a kind of common practice
99:43
that lots of long beach people have lots
99:45
of friends in oceanside and
99:47
highland park and they're paying local
99:50
fees not
99:50
um out canopies
99:55
i i can answer that question for you uh
99:58
and
99:59
it's two parts to the question judy um
100:02
the first one being a household is
100:04
allowed
100:05
to purchase up to three resident family
100:08
passes
100:10
well that's my question joe why yes okay
100:13
but you also brought up children and i
100:14
was just going to touch on that but
100:16
if that's not then yes that's it
100:20
so why why is that is my question why
100:23
is why is that that
100:27
so high that you can purchase three
100:29
family
100:31
passes per person
100:35
well i mean there are a number of
100:36
households that have more than two
100:38
adults over the age of 18 living
100:40
absolutely and they should be able so i
100:43
can understand the second one but
100:45
when you've gotten up there now six
100:47
people
100:49
three three's been the rules for as long
100:51
as i have known it judy
100:53
i i think it's a fact i think i'm older
100:55
than you but i remember
100:57
not okay what was that i remember when
101:00
it was
101:00
not three that increased i can't even
101:03
tell you when because i'm not good with
101:04
numbers
101:05
but um when i got to the point where my
101:09
children were old enough that i needed
101:10
this
101:10
either second individual you know
101:13
another individual or um more than the
101:16
family pass
101:17
it was two was the limit and i had to
101:19
bring my lease
101:20
and all right well that stuff is still
101:23
all required for proof of residency
101:25
and if you do need passes for children
101:27
that are included between the ages of 13
101:29
and 7.
101:30
i know that i'm just asking but i'm
101:32
saying my household alone i have four
101:34
children that all need beach passes
101:36
they they're not included in the child
101:38
passes i have to buy three
101:40
adult three sets of adult passes to meet
101:43
my family's needs
101:45
okay there's a number of families that
101:46
do have that i'm just wondering if
101:48
there's some safeguard you could put in
101:50
so that it is for long week families i
101:52
have no problem with that
101:54
but we also all know that that's not
101:56
what happens
101:58
well hopefully they will have a lot of
102:00
success with the uh
102:02
electronic beach passes and you can't
102:05
hand out your cell phone quite as easily
102:06
as you can hand out
102:08
uh a plastic beach pass
102:12
it's one step we're taking but the three
102:14
was decided on to be
102:15
uh to be the fair number okay i was just
102:19
raising for consideration
102:21
considering we certainly need revenue
102:24
point taken thank you judy
102:27
you're welcome all right thanks judy
102:30
okay all right anyone else dave yes uh
102:34
william depper
102:40
okay
102:42
you muted mr depper there you go about
102:45
the electronic beach pass
102:47
i mean is there going to be something
102:49
like similar to a kiosk where the person
102:52
can
102:53
just go up flash it in front and then
102:55
enter onto the beach
102:58
and also aren't you concerned that
103:00
people are going to be taking
103:01
like screenshots and just sending it to
103:05
their friends
103:06
and then you're going to have so many
103:08
people on the beach
103:11
because i live right near the beach past
103:13
entrance and most of them
103:15
just look at your thing and just tell
103:17
you have a nice day
103:20
i mean hopefully they'll go through a
103:21
better training
103:23
but i see many just walking on to the
103:26
beach
103:26
some of them don't even show their
103:28
passes
103:30
i to answer two of your questions the
103:33
first one is
103:35
the kiosk or the points of entry at the
103:38
beach park
103:38
will remain the same the the regular
103:41
beach entrances that we have are going
103:42
to be the regular beach entrances
103:44
that you'll now walk onto the beach at
103:47
if you show your plastic pass or hard
103:49
pass that you've purchased
103:50
uh through the in over the years before
103:54
uh nothing will change uh if you're
103:56
showing
103:57
your electronic beach pass it'll be on
103:59
your cell phone
104:00
that ticket taker can scan it but one
104:03
feature
104:04
uh mr deppler i think that was your name
104:07
uh
104:07
is that the the past that appears on the
104:10
cell phone
104:11
uh has a real time timer on it so you
104:14
can't
104:15
simply you know take a screenshot and
104:17
and send it or take a screenshot and
104:19
somebody send you a picture of it
104:21
to put it on so once it's scanned it'll
104:24
come up as invalid
104:25
and that passes obviously that that
104:27
phone doesn't have
104:28
an electric beat pass app oh great okay
104:33
thank you my pleasure
104:39
all right anyone else dave
104:42
that was all okay let's see did we get
104:45
mr cool blood back
104:46
yeah i have him on the phone here okay
104:49
so
104:49
here i'm going to change my microphone
104:51
so we can see if we can hear him
104:53
my computer microphone can you guys
104:55
still hear me yes
104:56
a little muffled but yes
105:00
yes sir can you hear me now okay yes we
105:04
can
105:04
good finally we got this worked out
105:07
thank you so much i really appreciate
105:08
your patience thank you
105:10
oh no problem so can you just uh can you
105:12
tell us a little about your business
105:15
okay so i'm a retired new york city
105:17
firefighter and i started an online
105:19
apparel business
105:20
to sell firefighter t-shirts and
105:22
firefighter apparel
105:24
to firemen from all over the world so
105:26
basically it's not going to be in
105:28
a retail in the store i won't be selling
105:30
out of the store
105:31
it's more like an office and to conduct
105:33
online sales
105:35
and uh that's about it okay
105:39
uh so if you're doing online is is that
105:42
office where you're going to be doing
105:44
your shipping from
105:46
yes i have i'll bring some items over
105:49
there
105:49
i have i have another little garage
105:51
warehouse and the
105:52
storage and i don't bring all the items
105:54
there so i just would
105:56
what my wife needs for today i'll bring
105:57
over there and she'll ship out that day
106:00
okay so uh what do you anticipate in
106:03
terms of
106:03
i guess whether it be pickups uh or
106:06
deliveries
106:07
uh for the business uh not too many
106:10
deliveries
106:12
um probably more pickups every day from
106:14
the post office
106:15
you know a lot of the posters that pick
106:17
up the packages at the end of the day
106:19
and uh maybe every once a month i'll get
106:21
a shipment in
106:22
and uh i'll bring it into the store
106:24
maybe twice a month
106:26
okay and uh
106:29
all right so you're not going to be
106:30
having much in the way of customer uh
106:32
traffic so i guess it's just whatever uh
106:35
i mean once in a while if a firefighter
106:37
from long beach
106:38
asked if he can pick it up and save on
106:40
the shipping i'll allow them to come in
106:42
oh sure so i would like to come pick it
106:44
up at my house
106:45
so it'll be the same thing i'll just let
106:47
them pick it up from the store
106:50
and how many people do you anticipate
106:51
having working in there
106:54
you my wife oh okay family affair
106:58
yeah yeah yep okay
107:01
was upstate so he's just more of a
107:03
behind-the-scenes guy
107:05
sure okay uh any questions from the
107:08
council members
107:12
all right cnn uh do we have any from the
107:15
public dave
107:16
no hands raised okay great so why don't
107:20
we uh
107:21
why don't we close that hearing and why
107:23
don't we uh
107:25
uh why don't we move to the vote on that
107:27
so uh
107:28
um mr kubler could get his answer now
107:31
okay so this is item number four we're
107:34
gonna vote on a resolution granting wave
107:36
of wall street parking requirements for
107:37
permits
107:38
58 a east park avenue for an online
107:40
apparel business
107:41
introduced some of the adoption of this
107:43
item i will
107:46
second i will
107:50
good morning councilman delorey yes most
107:52
member mandel
107:54
yes member tristan yes vice president
107:57
mcginnis
107:58
yes president pando yes and welcome
108:02
to long beach and we wish you a lot of
108:04
success
108:05
thank you so much again i really
108:07
appreciate your patience sorry about the
108:08
technical difficulties
108:10
oh that's fine and good luck to you guys
108:13
thank you so much appreciate it all
108:14
right have a good night
108:16
no problem have a good night okay
108:18
bye-bye
108:19
okay and let's move back to the agenda
108:23
one second let me just switch my audio
108:25
back sure
108:29
way to innovate there dave nice job
108:34
we have to move we got to think on the
108:35
fly here okay
108:38
so we left off at item number nine which
108:40
is a resolution
108:42
authorizing the city manager and the
108:43
city controller to transfer funds excuse
108:46
me
108:46
within the 2020 2021 budget
108:50
excuse me all right i guess ina i'm
108:52
guessing this is going to be you
108:56
i will try i will try so
109:00
um basically the gist of that resolution
109:03
is uh from time to time uh we bring to
109:07
you
109:08
um requests to transfer funds between
109:11
the accounts between the departments
109:14
to move budget from where we have access
109:17
budget to the accounts that
109:20
um need um
109:24
money in them
109:27
so um as we are approaching
109:31
here and uh what's happening
109:34
is um money are getting tighter and
109:38
tighter
109:39
and uh um
109:42
it requires more and more transfers
109:46
so what we're asking to do
109:49
for the city departments it's really for
109:51
the department so their operational
109:53
capacity
109:55
is not um is not effective
109:59
right uh by the funding we're asking
110:02
that you allow
110:03
us to check on the availability of the
110:07
funds
110:08
and to transfer them um so
110:12
uh these departments can proceed with
110:15
their operations like if a garage needs
110:18
money
110:19
in certain accounts to repair cars
110:22
with building maintenance needs money to
110:25
for the repairs
110:26
if we need to um
110:30
pay for it for for for certain things
110:33
it's for
110:34
operating funds only um for general
110:37
water and sewer funds
110:38
so um that's what we're asking you to do
110:42
to please give us an authority to
110:44
uh proceed with the transfers and we
110:47
will be reporting to you
110:49
um on the transfers as um
110:53
as the year goes by so um
110:56
[Music]
110:57
it does not end on july 1st
111:00
because city continues to receive
111:03
invoices fall into the fiscal 2022
111:06
so um we will continue to provide you
111:10
with
111:10
all the information on all the transfers
111:13
as the
111:15
until the year is closed fiscal 2021
111:21
you know this is a normal and customary
111:24
procedure correct
111:26
this is a normal and customary procedure
111:29
yes
111:30
and um the reason i'm for it is because
111:33
i trust you
111:34
to make sure that everything's in order
111:35
so thank you
111:37
thank you uh you know my delorey so
111:40
you'll give a summary report
111:41
of all the transfers sometime in july
111:44
and then we'll
111:45
we'll approve it or how does that work
111:49
so this will be done for informational
111:52
purposes only
111:54
you approve it now you're basically
111:56
giving us
111:57
a blood not a blank check because we
112:00
cannot spend
112:01
more than what's in a budget right but
112:04
you are giving
112:05
us um a permission to move money between
112:09
the departments and the accounts
112:12
well when you do your budget adjustments
112:14
they'll be uh
112:16
you know um some kind of
112:20
report that the council received saying
112:22
that the um
112:24
absolutely this amount the amended
112:27
budget was this amount and the adjusted
112:29
budget is this amounted to your rent
112:31
something like that
112:32
absolutely so what i will just
112:35
uh make sure that you receive
112:38
um is um the scorecard right so the
112:42
scorecard already shows
112:44
the regional budget and demanded budget
112:48
um i will also um add a column
112:51
to basically so you nobody will have to
112:53
do the math
112:54
so it will show what the transfers are
112:57
right which will probably be
112:59
the final budget which will match up
113:00
almost with your year end
113:02
almost yes yes
113:05
absolutely july after july there will be
113:07
none this is a
113:09
once a year authorization it looks like
113:12
this is a once a year authorization yes
113:15
okay thanks
113:17
um you know i'm sorry i just have one
113:20
more request
113:21
regarding this matter my apologies
113:24
um i looked at the preliminary 20 21 21
113:27
22 budget
113:28
with the 331 21 actuals
113:32
year to date actuals that you provided
113:34
us
113:36
and i noticed uh within the fire
113:39
department there were there was two
113:42
lines that i would ask
113:43
you a question about which is related to
113:46
this blanket transfers
113:48
so the first line is a line item and the
113:51
expense budget for the fire department
113:53
is called purchase ems
113:55
slash fire equipment
113:58
the adopted budget amount was two
114:00
hundred thousand
114:01
for the fiscal year ending six thirty
114:03
twenty one
114:05
the year to date the march 31 21
114:08
year-to-date spent was zero
114:13
so i would like to understand
114:17
why we have not purchased fire equipment
114:20
to the degree to the amount of 200 000
114:22
when there is obviously a demonstrated
114:25
need from my late person opinion
114:27
that this money would be spent on fire
114:29
equipment
114:30
you're absolutely right um so basically
114:34
this
114:35
hundred thousand dollars uh budget
114:38
was established via the ridership when
114:41
the city anticipated
114:42
receiving uh some state grants
114:46
and then um in first couple of months of
114:49
fiscal
114:50
2021 it became apparent that those
114:53
grants will not be coming to the city
114:57
so uh this item amongst the other
115:00
items that were to be funded by this
115:02
grant
115:03
um we just would not allow any expenses
115:06
because
115:07
there wouldn't be any revenue coming to
115:09
cover it
115:10
um does that also uh include the line
115:13
item called
115:14
safety equipment which has one hundred
115:16
thousand dollars budgeted and eight
115:18
eight thousand uh spent your march here
115:20
to date
115:21
you're absolutely correct yes
115:24
and that can't be offset by the
115:26
unbudgeted 651 000
115:29
that we received from emergency disaster
115:32
assistance
115:34
or is that expenses no that's revenue
115:36
right
115:37
yeah that's what yeah um so
115:44
the
115:46
the short answer is no why it's no
115:49
because we have to prioritize obviously
115:53
the revenues um of the city especially
115:56
exchange type revenues are
115:58
good they're still severely impacted by
116:02
corvette and profit restrictions and
116:05
um we have to um
116:08
make sure that we're very prudent with
116:11
how we spend
116:12
money and in this case um
116:16
that this 651 000 will have to be spent
116:20
and then
116:21
it can be earmarked 10 different other
116:23
ways
116:24
um everybody at the city does recognize
116:27
the necessity of the equipment
116:29
for um the firefighters
116:32
and we're pursuing um an option of
116:35
leasing that kind of equipment they
116:38
think
116:39
this was specifically earmarked for the
116:41
ambulances
116:43
so we're looking um into
116:46
pleasing um i think that
116:50
they were talking about two ambulances
116:52
so
116:53
um hopefully this uh
116:57
that this will come to free fruition in
117:00
in the next couple of months okay i
117:03
guess we'll discuss further at our
117:05
our budget meanings sure thank you
117:10
all right any other questions from the
117:12
council members
117:15
all right dave any questions from the
117:17
public
117:19
uh yes roy lester okay
117:24
andre karen you were referencing
117:29
some were they attached to your
117:32
resolution
117:35
i'm i'm referee i'm referencing the the
117:37
budget document the preliminary
117:40
draft budget documents that the um the
117:42
council received
117:43
last week but we haven't seen them yet
117:47
okay but this on item nine
117:51
there's nothing they're talking about
117:53
moving funds but there are no funds
117:55
there's no particularity with the funds
117:58
is that correct
117:59
it just says that's that's correct
118:02
because it hasn't been determined yet
118:04
make sure i wasn't missing something all
118:06
right thanks
118:09
all right thanks rory uh anyone else
118:12
dave
118:12
that was it okay let's move on to the
118:16
next item
118:18
okay item 10 is a resolution authorizing
118:21
annual allocation of community
118:22
development funds for the 45th program
118:24
year
118:24
and a budget amendment to the community
118:26
development fund for the 44th program
118:28
year
118:30
okay and i'm assuming that's going to be
118:33
monique
118:36
and there she is good evening everyone
118:40
um we're continuing
118:42
um aligning community development fun
118:45
according uh to the hud requirements and
118:49
creating that transparency
118:51
uh with the budget and um you know
118:53
allocating it based on our priorities
118:55
and where things
118:56
need to be so the 45th year the funds
118:58
are coming in
118:59
are in the contract was signed and now
119:02
um
119:02
it's time to allocate it accordingly um
119:04
and that's what you see here for the
119:06
45th year
119:08
so i don't know if there's any questions
119:10
about the 45th year uh the 45th
119:12
year 44th year sorry excuse me it's
119:15
about just
119:16
cleaning out items every dollar every
119:17
penny counts so the 1616
119:20
is just coming out of one area um just
119:23
added to the other
119:24
um to close out the line so from history
119:27
we've had these
119:28
line items these budget funds there
119:30
funds have not been used and uh you know
119:32
uh funds should be used exhausted um and
119:36
then align to where we need them and
119:37
that's what this represents from the
119:38
44th to the 45th year
119:43
okay any questions from the council
119:45
members
119:49
uh this is liz i don't have a question i
119:52
just
119:53
want to say thank you for i know how
119:56
much work that you've put into this so
119:58
it's much appreciated
120:00
and if i may just to clear up um
120:04
of some things is that cdbg funds it's
120:06
not
120:07
part of the operational budget um and
120:10
there's a lot of misconception about
120:11
that
120:12
and i've worked and i thank ina for
120:14
understanding
120:15
i think patty who worked on this prior
120:17
to me being here
120:18
but we must understand that cdbg funds
120:21
uh
120:22
have three objectives it must benefit to
120:24
the low and moderate income persons it
120:26
must prevent or eliminate slums or
120:27
blight
120:28
and it must meet a community need having
120:30
a particular urgency
120:32
and that is what we're moving forward to
120:34
do
120:35
um and that is going to be the goal you
120:37
know moving forward and with that
120:39
there must be timelines and targeted
120:41
completion dates
120:43
and so the sense of urgency to to make
120:46
sure that we meet those measurements
120:47
will be taken
120:48
will be done um hi monique this is my
120:52
delorean can you just briefly describe
120:54
this youth employment training for the
120:56
summer
120:57
yes so uh one of the uh being that we
121:00
talked about
121:01
a community urgency need uh
121:04
there has been a need for jobs there has
121:07
been
121:07
job retention job creation workforce
121:11
development
121:12
and under that one of the services as i
121:15
am also the
121:16
supervisor under youth and families is
121:19
internships
121:20
um and that is to provide sorry
121:23
that's john mcnally saying dog vader i'm
121:25
about to turn into wonder woman if you
121:27
can hear the screaming in the back
121:28
um but that is to my kids are screaming
121:31
that is to provide
121:32
uh youth employment internships
121:35
over the summer um and that you know
121:38
provides internships for the youth and
121:40
that could be
121:40
high school or college seniors and we're
121:42
working towards that great thanks
121:44
monique
121:45
monique is that internships with the
121:48
city or we help
121:50
get them internships like in a business
121:51
or something it's kind of it's actually
121:53
uh with the city okay and um it has
121:56
already been a program and raymond uh
121:58
from the tax was taken over in the tax
122:00
assessor department um and we have
122:02
transitioned over
122:04
um so that is something that we want to
122:05
do moving forward we've we've had a
122:07
relationship
122:07
with uh evelyn gaza from the high school
122:11
and we were doing unpaid during the
122:14
school year
122:14
so that they can occur hours towards
122:17
their degrees
122:18
and then we hope that it will transition
122:20
to a pay for either that same student or
122:22
other students eligible
122:24
as their time and eligibility and
122:26
availability
122:27
increases being that they're not in
122:28
school during a full day um
122:30
so yep okay
122:34
uh any other questions from the council
122:37
members
122:40
all right seeing none dave any from the
122:42
public
122:43
roy lester okay what is the social
122:46
security that we're paying
122:49
um so that's part of salaries um so that
122:52
has to be out that's what we call the
122:53
fringe benefits
122:54
so every line has to create uh funds for
122:57
it so it adds up to what the
122:59
administrative salaries are
123:00
but it's not put in the in with the
123:03
regular no salaries that's a separate
123:07
line for everything combined
123:09
has to be everything every line has to
123:11
be identified and moved
123:13
right it's right it's the employer
123:15
portion of the payroll
123:17
no i i figured that i just wasn't sure
123:20
why it wasn't included
123:22
in the cost okay thanks
123:25
okay uh anyone else dave
123:28
uh yep william depper okay
123:38
okay ahead mr tepper
123:41
yes hi miss powell i spoke to you a
123:44
little earlier
123:45
um would you possibly
123:49
allow um you do know that
123:52
um there's a big rise in
123:56
hiv in children 13
124:00
to 24 years old
124:03
so i was hoping that maybe you would um
124:07
allow some hiv testing
124:10
not on school grounds but possibly near
124:13
the school grounds
124:15
or you know allow us to do some kind of
124:18
sex education in the schools
124:21
and um
124:25
because really with the schools closed
124:27
this year
124:28
we're figuring that the big rise in the
124:31
hiv
124:32
cases especially with um the kids home
124:36
parents working and a lot of time on
124:39
their hands
124:40
because we were all younger ourselves
124:44
so if you could think it over and
124:46
possibly
124:47
um maybe get back to me or i'm not
124:50
talking about this myself
124:52
i would get um people that have gone to
124:55
college
124:56
and have a degree to teach in this
125:00
well it was a pleasure to the mlk
125:04
center i'd like to bring it all over
125:07
long beach
125:08
william it was a pleasure speaking to
125:09
you earlier and you had uh
125:11
voice your concerns um about your
125:13
outreaching and where you stand
125:15
um and i didn't explain to you my role
125:18
i am not responsible um or administering
125:21
anything that happens in the school
125:23
um i think that was something that's
125:24
something that you would have to bring
125:26
to the attention of the schools
125:27
um and that that is part of their agenda
125:30
um you know i used to be a school
125:31
administrator
125:32
um there is a separation of what um home
125:34
and careers and sex education must be
125:36
but you know they have policy procedures
125:38
and determine their priorities and
125:40
anything outside of the curriculum
125:41
or instruction it's definitely hard now
125:43
with covid and there has been a loss of
125:45
learning for all so
125:46
i i believe there will be reconstruction
125:48
of what instructional assessments and
125:51
this whole loss of learning
125:52
but i advise you to reach out to the
125:54
school district or any party that you
125:56
may know
125:56
uh that has a relate direct relationship
125:59
with policy and planning
126:00
unfortunately i wouldn't be able to do
126:02
that um
126:03
you also mentioned that or
126:06
how about at the rec center like i'm
126:08
doing it at the community center
126:11
would we be able to do it there it's in
126:13
a van
126:14
northwell hf um
126:18
and project safety that all have their
126:20
own bands
126:22
i think that's something that we can
126:23
talk about i can't make that decision
126:24
right now
126:25
there's process you have my number you
126:27
have my email i also have community talk
126:29
wednesdays
126:30
where you can schedule to meet with me
126:32
via zoom um i can come prepared
126:34
um but there's also there's definitely a
126:36
process and procedure and you know i
126:38
take your inquiry
126:38
and we'll follow that and we'll see if
126:40
it's possible okay and i'll bring the
126:42
um sales rep from hf pharmacy in two
126:46
thank you so much
126:49
all right thank you and dave i see mr
126:51
hodges in the
126:52
batter's box so i'm assuming he's next
126:54
he's next go ahead james
126:56
yeah uh good evening to all of you uh
127:00
thank you for allowing me the
127:01
opportunity to speak just wanted to
127:03
while we're on community development
127:05
the most marginalized community in the
127:07
city of long beach is
127:08
the uh what we i know we were speaking
127:11
about it earlier i
127:12
heard you earlier speaking about what
127:14
confines north park
127:16
how big it is where do it go but the
127:19
most marginalized
127:20
area in the city of long beach is
127:22
between uh
127:23
the train station park avenue to the bay
127:26
and long beach road and also if you go
127:29
over to
127:30
channel park homes uh it appears that
127:34
uh you know the martin luther king
127:35
center has
127:37
uh been forgot about i think when it
127:40
comes to
127:41
community development for the last
127:43
several years
127:44
last several and i believe
127:48
that with the city having the
127:50
information with all city council
127:52
members
127:52
knowing the work and knowing the
127:54
in-depth community service that
127:57
mlk does everybody has been here
127:59
everybody's been here
128:00
uh uh through the mlk up and down mlk to
128:04
mlk events
128:05
to mlk special events martin luther king
128:08
day everybody has spoken well
128:10
but the proof is in the action of what
128:13
we are able to do
128:15
together in this budget maybe there's
128:18
another budget
128:19
i don't know but i don't see mlk
128:22
mentioned
128:23
anywhere in this budget i don't see a
128:26
thousand dollars i don't see five
128:27
thousand dollars
128:28
five dollars anything i don't see it
128:32
maybe it's there but i i you know the
128:34
executive director came on last time
128:37
spoke about the mlk but we have
128:39
community development director
128:41
he's a former director of the mlk i
128:44
don't care who anyone is
128:45
i'm speaking to the city council city
128:48
manager
128:48
community development director the mlk
128:52
is very important and all of you know it
128:54
it is
128:55
the poorest area in the city of long
128:57
beach we need
128:59
help and it's great that the
129:01
commissioner has been on the phone
129:03
we've spoken we talked he's looking
129:06
intensively on how he can help how he
129:09
can put things together
129:10
how he can get more police officers in
129:12
and really abide by the
129:14
executive order 203 i am asking on this
129:17
council
129:18
community development director that we
129:20
do something
129:21
to work with the mlk and put
129:25
funds into an area
129:28
that urgently
129:31
needed very we needed it before the
129:34
pandemic
129:35
any area that's a depressed area will be
129:37
even more depressed
129:38
during the pandemic emergency community
129:41
national
129:42
natural disaster so again
129:45
we need funds and i will constantly go
129:48
around the country in the world
129:50
to speak up for this marginalized part
129:53
of the city of long beach
129:54
because again some people sometimes
129:57
forget about us we're always the one
129:59
that's forgot about
130:01
and i don't just say that to say it but
130:03
the proof is in the action
130:05
even when we had the food distribution
130:08
mlk site the school left out until we
130:11
pleaded
130:11
in beg please stop forgetting about the
130:14
martin luther king center and the people
130:17
that are in north park the majority
130:19
minorities
130:20
that are here all around long beach but
130:22
the majority of minorities and the
130:24
majority of african americans
130:26
are right in the confines of as they
130:28
would say sometimes behind stop and shop
130:31
or over behind mcdonald's we are a part
130:34
of the whole city of long beach
130:36
nevada to maple from the beach of the
130:37
ocean please let us continue
130:39
to allow our budgets to allow our
130:41
actions to reflect
130:43
all of us i i request
130:47
wholeheartedly please i ask on behalf
130:50
of the north park community please don't
130:52
forget about us
130:53
great hi james so you i know you address
130:55
some things to me and there's a lot of
130:57
unpacking
130:58
so if you would like to go back i wrote
130:59
i took some notes of what was has been
131:01
said
131:02
so if you would like to go back and if
131:03
you have a question because it seems
131:04
like you
131:05
you haven't statement that's your time
131:07
also and that's your time so
131:08
uh unfortunately some things that we
131:11
could talk about
131:12
um i'm sorry
131:16
yeah it went off i had it going okay
131:18
good
131:20
so we talked about community development
131:22
and you're talking about the north park
131:24
and you made a statement that you have
131:25
been ignored um i don't i don't i didn't
131:28
write that part down
131:29
um no previous previous administrations
131:31
yes
131:32
okay well from what i have now and for
131:35
what is happening
131:36
um you know we created an all-access
131:38
program with community development
131:40
um the the statement of being ignored um
131:44
you know i i really can't touch base on
131:45
that but however there has been funds
131:48
that has been used on the north park
131:50
there has been funds for the community
131:52
as a whole you have to understand what
131:54
cdbg funds is i've created platforms to
131:56
communicate and become transparent
131:58
please understand that the the community
132:00
i need is not just north park
132:02
but north park is inclusive to that so i
132:05
i just wanted you to go over
132:07
some of the things that you were saying
132:08
so that i can touch point on that
132:10
but no smart for what i've read for what
132:12
the plans are which we haven't
132:14
communicated
132:15
funds have been allocated to to mlk for
132:18
years
132:19
which is the senior program um there's
132:21
evidence of funds that's been there
132:23
some of the youth programs the security
132:25
guards we can go on and on
132:27
and i don't want it to be a back and
132:28
forth you should know me that my point
132:30
is being progressive
132:31
and for everyone to be accountable and
132:34
to align the dollars where there's need
132:36
so if you want to have that time to
132:37
discuss it if you want to do it offline
132:39
if you want to be part of the community
132:41
talk and if you want to go back and
132:42
forth emails
132:43
i am fine to do that but there's a lot
132:45
of things that was said that i can vouch
132:46
for and say that's untrue
132:48
um so if you want to go back we can you
132:49
know we can do that i don't know time is
132:51
allotted for that
132:52
but um not why i'm in this position when
132:54
i allow someone to say that
132:56
certain parts of the community have been
132:57
ignored if i was good enough to work at
132:59
the martin luther king center i am good
133:00
enough to be the
133:01
director of community development here
133:02
in long beach um and understanding the
133:04
needs
133:05
um so i want us to understand that and
133:07
to work together is to understand my
133:09
vision and my mission as a director of
133:10
community development
133:11
as the city manager has set me in for
133:13
this position and align it to the needs
133:15
of the community and i have said that
133:16
numerous times on this
133:18
and every meeting and is to find the
133:20
needs of every person that is in need
133:22
and yes there are some according to cdbg
133:24
according to you
133:25
that have higher needs and we need to
133:27
identify that and we're going to
133:28
identify that by making data-driven
133:30
decision-making
133:31
and we've talked about that during our
133:32
non-profit of what data-driven
133:33
decision-making is
133:34
so i can't say what the needs are and
133:36
honestly you can't say
133:38
but we need to have a community needs
133:39
assessment we can meet we can have
133:41
surveys i've read the north park survey
133:43
that was created
133:44
i've spoke to mars mcmahon jr as i
133:46
discussed and those are all part of my
133:48
plans
133:49
however we have not got there yet before
133:51
we start to implement we have to align
133:53
the dollars we have to clean up
133:55
because there's a process and a
133:56
procedure i
133:58
am an advocate for process procedure and
134:00
systems
134:01
so we just can't wake up and say we're
134:03
going to feed everybody there has to be
134:04
a systematic approach
134:06
there has to be data i talked about
134:08
logic framework models
134:09
theories of change and evaluation to
134:11
know that we're doing it i always said
134:13
we cannot all provide food at the same
134:16
time
134:17
families on thanksgiving we all give out
134:19
turkeys however on that table
134:21
there are other items that they can eat
134:22
which means that we need to come
134:24
together whether it's the non-profit the
134:25
clergy's or
134:26
any stakeholders that's out there saying
134:28
that we want to provide a need and work
134:29
together
134:30
the city does not have the time or the
134:33
capacity
134:34
to do the same programs over and over
134:36
again but to supplement what's already
134:38
uh being provided and the only way to do
134:40
that is to find the needs assessment of
134:42
the entire community
134:43
align it and do it accordingly you and i
134:46
have talked about data
134:47
what's important and that is my mission
134:50
so therefore we will no longer be
134:51
providing a table full of all turkeys
134:53
because everybody thanks giving out
134:54
turkeys but we can have turkey we can
134:56
have corn we can have soda
134:58
we can have all the above but we need to
135:00
be able to identify
135:02
what is a person that needs the last
135:03
meeting we have we talked about it being
135:05
6.9
135:06
of people that's living under poverty
135:08
that's in properties already in long
135:09
beach six point nine percent and the
135:11
average income
135:12
is ninety four thousand dollars now we
135:14
compare
135:15
us to another city to another place in
135:17
the those numbers are
135:18
different so i ask that we work together
135:21
to identify
135:22
the needs of that 6.9 percent because
135:24
there is community development funds
135:26
that that can help them and add on to
135:28
that and give them a need but we need to
135:30
work together
135:31
so i can go over you know what what is
135:34
being done but please when you say
135:35
you're directing me my line has been
135:37
open
135:38
i've communicated and i actually walked
135:39
by the mlk center today
135:41
so i you know i don't want to bring it
135:42
to that i want to bring it to what we
135:44
need
135:44
work together and provide that need and
135:46
there is no division
135:48
yeah i want to say thank you for uh that
135:51
and uh of course you can say what you
135:53
say but i'm entitled to say what i'm
135:55
saying and what i know
135:57
for a fact and i know that north park is
136:00
the largest percentage
136:01
that gets the city a lot of the cd
136:04
bg funding i know it for a fact and
136:06
we've had plenty of meetings with the
136:08
county
136:09
and we'll meet meeting with you and and
136:10
we want to continue a good relationship
136:12
it's bigger than you and i but again
136:15
you're in that position but the city
136:16
council has a job
136:18
also to make sure that they are
136:21
and included when they're voting on
136:23
different things they have a right to
136:24
look at and look at like you said
136:26
process
136:27
all of that all your whole speech no
136:29
it's a good thing
136:30
okay at the city council supports me and
136:32
the city manager
136:34
and there is no in between so you must
136:36
understand as a community
136:38
director of community development my job
136:39
title gives me just that
136:41
all right so you got you guys need to
136:44
take this
136:44
this conversation offline and and
136:47
see what you know like you said you guys
136:50
knew
136:50
john that there's nothing in the budget
136:52
so you guys look at the budget also i'll
136:54
talk to them on the we talk
136:56
that's what i'm saying you and monique
136:57
you and monique should talk
136:59
you know and like she said you know
137:01
based on some data come up with
137:03
a a needs assessment and um
137:07
and then and then you know you guys can
137:09
come back and talk to us
137:11
so he has employment training was
137:14
fun spent at the mlk center okay okay
137:17
okay
137:17
okay thank you so much john thank you
137:19
monique uh again the city has plenty of
137:21
data that's why a lot of the funding
137:22
come in
137:23
but we will speak thank you so much for
137:25
this time okay
137:26
thanks james let's get let's get that
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lease signed
137:31
come on all right all right uh dave uh
137:35
any more
137:35
uh nope that was all okay let's move on
137:39
to item 11.
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item 11 is a resolution authorizing the
137:42
city manager to enter into a contract
137:43
for emergency sanitary sewer repair
137:46
and replacement at west park avenue
137:47
north side between grand boulevard and
137:49
new york avenue with the lowest
137:51
responsible bidder
137:52
okay hopefully joe is still awake yes
137:55
i'm stepping
137:59
good evening everyone yes i'm here to
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just talk about we had a
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merchant we had a sewer collapse on the
138:05
north side of park avenue
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between new york and grand boulevard in
138:09
response
138:10
we had our sanitary sewer department go
138:13
down there and they set up a bypass
138:14
between two manholes
138:16
um of course we notified the city
138:18
council and the city manager of the
138:19
problem and police department as well
138:22
in response we also prepared and
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solicited bids
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from um four
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bidders that we utilize frequently and
138:32
are excellent
138:33
contractors um we received bids on april
138:36
1st 2021
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the low bidder was thomas novelli
138:40
contracting at 101 000.
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uh the third second third and fourth of
138:44
the bidder was allen industries bank of
138:46
construction and iras respectively at
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122 900
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203 two fifty and two hundred ninety
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three thousand six hundred
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um thomas the valley is a respected
138:56
contractor we've used frequently they
138:58
just recently
138:59
um completed the successful uh emergency
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repair sanitary sewer at the
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intersection of lindell boulevard and
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walnut street
139:07
they're also the contract that i was
139:08
selecting will be starting with them
139:10
next week on boyd street
139:11
the reconstruction of boyd north of pine
139:15
if this is to be awarded tonight they're
139:16
going to come in to work on monday
139:18
next week april 12th as far as the work
139:22
it's really a point repair on the 10
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inch diameter sanitary sewer main
139:26
the entire line is approximately 453
139:29
linear feet in length
139:30
our sewer department isolated the brake
139:35
to an area that is approximately 40
139:36
linear foot in lane
139:38
so we're going to be undertaking that
139:39
work should this be approved um on
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monday
139:41
april 12th thank you
139:45
all right uh joe are they going to be
139:47
scoping
139:48
the line on either side of the brakes
139:50
just to see if uh
139:51
uh you know anything upstream or
139:53
downstream is in
139:55
yeah that's an excellent question one of
139:57
the problems we have is once it's
139:59
we we have another contract for a fight
140:02
that's held by national water main
140:03
cleaning company
140:04
and they do our um lining of sanitary
140:08
sewer mains
140:08
unfortunately once it collapses it's not
140:10
an option so my intent here is to
140:12
actually once this is repaired this
140:14
40-foot section is to go in there and
140:16
have them do a thorough
140:18
um cleaning and camera inspection of
140:21
that line and hopefully it's a candidate
140:22
for lining and we're going to line the
140:24
whole 453 feet
140:25
through that contract just to give you
140:28
an example of how much it would actually
140:30
cost um that line is 453 linear feet
140:33
long
140:33
the unit price per linear foot and
140:35
thomas neville's bid is 1400
140:37
per linear foot so it would cost 1400
140:40
times 453 feet
140:42
which i know was over 600 thousand i
140:44
don't have the exact number but it would
140:46
be
140:46
extremely costly you know it's about 10
140:48
feet down the sanitary sewer
140:50
um so you know this point repair is sort
140:53
of a band-aid
140:54
um on in the situation
140:58
but we're hoping that once it's repaired
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we could
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clean the line to the line and hopefully
141:03
it's a candidate for lining
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okay yeah i just wanted to make sure we
141:07
weren't going to fix the the 40 feet and
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then
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the what's on either side of it's on the
141:13
risk of collapsing any moment
141:17
but uh point taken okay um
141:20
any uh questions from the council
141:26
uh right cnn and and it's just worth
141:29
noting i guess
141:30
uh right now the city's been doing
141:32
bypass pumping
141:34
of this uh to keep the sewage flowing
141:37
so somebody's sitting out there at a
141:39
pump
141:41
making sure uh making sure our sewage
141:43
keeps flowing and isn't backing up into
141:46
our
141:47
toilets so yeah those guys they do a
141:49
great job out there they've been out
141:50
there for about two weeks now
141:52
um they're working around the clock to
141:54
make sure that
141:55
uh you're operational make sure the west
141:58
end isn't
141:58
under uh a lot of uh well you know what
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yes so uh
142:05
all right uh seen nothing from the
142:08
council dave any from the public
142:10
none from the public okay all right
142:13
thanks joe
142:15
and let's move on to item 12.
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okay item 12 is a resolution authorizing
142:20
publication for hearing of an ordinance
142:22
to amend the code of ordinances of the
142:23
city of long beach
142:24
regarding offensive miscellaneous this
142:26
items for publication only a hearing
142:28
will be held april 20th at 7 pm
142:30
and 13 is the resolution authorizing
142:32
publication of a notice of public
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hearing of an application a wave all
142:35
street parking requirements
142:36
for premise 1046 west beach street for a
142:38
sushi restaurant
142:40
science publication only hearing will be
142:41
held april 20th at 7 pm
142:44
on to the voting
142:47
one second okay we'll start with
142:51
item number two is a local law amending
142:54
the charter of the city of long beach
142:55
regarding city physician
142:56
and health officer who introduced move
142:59
the adoption of this item as amended
143:02
i will second i will
143:07
vote in council member delorey yes
143:09
councilmember mandel
143:11
yes councilmember tristan yes vice
143:14
president mcginnis
143:15
yes president bando yes
143:18
and item three is an ordinance to amend
143:20
the code of ordinances of the city of
143:21
long beach regarding police surgeon and
143:23
city physician
143:24
would you just remove the adoption of
143:25
this item as amended
143:28
i will second
143:32
i will whoever who who who got that
143:35
give it to karen okay good morning
143:38
councilmember delorey
143:39
yes councilmember mandel yes
143:42
councilmember tristan
143:44
vice president mcginnis yes president
143:47
bendo
143:48
yes item four's already been voted on
143:50
item five is the resolution authorizing
143:52
a settlement agreement
143:53
between i-star fm loans llc and shore
143:56
road long beach superblock llc
143:58
and the city of long beach don't you
144:00
just remove the adoption of this item
144:02
i will second
144:06
anyone i will thank you
144:10
floating councilmember delury yes
144:12
councilmember mandel
144:14
yes councilmember treston yes
144:17
vice president mcginnis yes president
144:20
bendel
144:21
and i'm going to reiterate this is
144:22
making a hundred million lawsuit go away
144:25
yes item six is a resolution authorizing
144:28
the city manager
144:29
excuse me to enter into an agreement
144:31
with engel berman at the beach llc
144:33
i want you to just move the adoption of
144:34
this item i will
144:37
second i will uh
144:40
morning councilmember delorey yes
144:44
councilmember mandel yes councilmember
144:47
tristan
144:48
yes vice president mcginnis yes
144:51
president bendo yes item
144:54
seven is a resolution fixing and
144:55
providing for the 2021
144:57
season of the ocean beach park we'll
144:59
just move the adoption of this item
145:01
very well second
145:06
i will voting cast member delorey
145:10
i'm happy to see this uh yes
145:13
uh councilmember mandel yes
145:16
councilmember tristan
145:17
yes vice president mcginnis yes
145:20
president bendall summer's coming yes
145:24
item 8 is a resolution authorizing the
145:26
city manager to enter to an agreement
145:27
for the providing of an electronic beach
145:29
pass solution
145:30
we're going to just move the adoption of
145:31
this item
145:33
i will second i will
145:39
voting councilmember with delorey no
145:44
councilmember mandel yes councilmember
145:47
treston
145:48
yes vice president mcginnis yes
145:51
president bendo
145:52
yes okay item nine is a resolution
145:56
authorizing the city manager and the
145:58
city controller to transfer funds for
145:59
the 2020
146:00
2021 budget would you just move the
146:02
adoption of this item
146:05
i will second
146:09
hello
146:13
voting customer delivery yes
146:15
councilmember mandel
146:16
yes councilmember tristan
146:19
vice president mcginnis yes president
146:22
bendo
146:23
no
146:26
okay item 10 it's a resolution
146:29
authorizing
146:31
annual allocation of community
146:32
development funds for the 45th program
146:34
year and a budget amendment to the
146:35
community development fund for the 44th
146:37
program year
146:38
would you just move the adoption of this
146:39
item
146:41
i will second
146:47
i will voting councilman delorey
146:51
yes councilmember mandel yes
146:54
councilmember tristan
146:55
yes vice president mcginnis yes
146:58
president pendo yes uh item 11 is a
147:02
resolution authorizing the city manager
147:04
to entertain contract
147:05
for emergency sanitary sewer repair and
147:07
replacement of the west park avenue
147:09
north side between grand boulevard and
147:11
new york avenue with the lowest
147:12
responsible bidder
147:13
which just moved the adoption of this
147:15
item i will
147:17
second i will
147:21
voting councilman delury yes
147:23
councilmember mandel
147:24
yes councilmember truston vice president
147:28
mcginnis
147:29
yes president bendo yes
147:33
wrong page item 12 is a resolution
147:35
authorizing publication for hearing of
147:37
an ordinance to mend the code of
147:38
ordinances
147:39
of the state of long beach regarding
147:40
offenses miscellaneous
147:42
which just removed the adoption of this
147:43
item i will
147:46
second i'm out
147:50
voting customer delivery yes
147:52
councilmember mandel
147:53
yes councilmember treston yes vice
147:56
president mcginnis
147:58
yes president bendo yes and finally item
148:01
13 is a resolution authorizing
148:03
publication of a notice of public
148:04
hearing of an application wave or street
148:06
parking requirements
148:07
for promise 1046 west beach street for a
148:09
sushi restaurant
148:10
wouldn't you just move the adoption of
148:12
this item i will
148:14
second i will
148:18
voting councilmember delivery yes that's
148:21
mary mandel
148:22
yes councilmember treston yes vice
148:25
president mcginnis
148:26
yes and president bendo yes
148:29
who make a motion to close the meeting i
148:32
will
148:34
second i will
148:38
vote in customer delorey
148:42
yes councilmember mandel
148:46
councilmember treston yes vice president
148:49
mcginnis
148:50
yes and president bando
148:54
yes okay all right
148:57
so now on to good and welfare so
149:00
i think most people know the drill but
149:02
you get three minutes
149:04
and um okay who's up first
149:08
dave kevin heller all right mr heller
149:11
oh thank you uh i have two areas of
149:13
inquiry if my time allows so i'll go in
149:16
order of importance
149:17
uh miss mcginnis referred to the
149:20
preliminary budget a few times tonight
149:24
when is that going to be discussed
149:25
publicly and
149:27
when can that be made available to us to
149:30
review before it's discussed publicly
149:32
so the city council is the charter
149:35
requires
149:36
the city council to get the budget by uh
149:38
april 10th
149:40
the public gets it 10 days later
149:44
okay so april 20th and when is it
149:46
discussed will there be meaning to this
149:48
uh yeah there'll be there'll be usually
149:50
there's at least two budget hearings
149:52
uh where it's discussed and people can
149:54
provide input
149:58
great and i just assume you'll post it
149:59
on the transparency portal yeah yeah
150:01
it'll be up on the website
150:02
yeah okay perfect thank you um the
150:04
second just a
150:06
question of curiosity on broadway
150:08
between roosevelt pacific there was a uh
150:11
parking lot which is now fenced off
150:15
dude does anyone know why and what's
150:17
happening with that
150:19
that parking there's obviously a serious
150:20
lack of parking
150:22
down here as well yeah rich was that one
150:24
of the uh was that one of the lots we
150:26
had leased
150:26
previously yeah mr heller i didn't hear
150:28
which location was it
150:30
it's on on broadway between roosevelt
150:32
and pacific i think it's on the north
150:33
side of the street right
150:35
okay it is yes yeah i think that's one
150:37
of the three which
150:38
i think that's the one the one by wilson
150:40
avenue
150:42
if it's the one by wilson avenue then
150:44
yes that's one of the uh privately owned
150:46
lots
150:46
that the city discontinued to lease on
150:48
mr heller oh okay so the owner's taking
150:51
it back but we just chose not to lease
150:52
it anymore
150:53
the owner's taking it back i believe the
150:54
owner fence both lots off the broadway
150:57
lot and the shore road lot as well
150:59
um we tried to reach out to the owner a
151:01
couple of times or a few times actually
151:02
at this point more than a few times
151:04
uh to see if they've had any interest in
151:06
leasing the lot to uh
151:08
the parking of you know to basically go
151:11
into the parking business but we haven't
151:12
heard back from them yet uh well there's
151:14
a bunch of kids that love to play roller
151:16
hockey that are very happy with their
151:17
decisions so far
151:19
yeah and just just to recap mr heller
151:21
the city was
151:22
um paying well over a hundred thousand
151:25
dollars actually 150
151:27
dollars i think to to lease the three
151:30
lots from private entities and was only
151:32
collecting fifty thousand dollars in
151:33
in permanent revenues um so it was
151:36
obviously a significant loss the the
151:38
council
151:39
uh changed the ordinance to allow a
151:42
private entity to charge
151:44
fair market value uh for it and an
151:46
opportunity to give
151:48
you know the private law owners an
151:49
opportunity to
151:51
uh make it a profitable business but
151:53
they they've yet to
151:54
uh you know have yet to take the city up
151:57
on that offer of making it a profitable
151:59
business
152:00
well why didn't we just raise the
152:01
parking fees we could have solved that
152:03
gap
152:06
well we we privately talked about it
152:09
the problem was the city was paying
152:12
about
152:13
eighteen hundred dollars per parking
152:15
spot and was selling
152:17
parking passes for them for fifty bucks
152:20
so uh that was not a good use
152:24
of at least it was determined by the
152:27
council that that was not
152:28
a good use of taxpayer money that uh
152:32
people that don't use those lots were
152:33
subsidizing
152:35
uh the people that were which is why we
152:38
changed the conditions so the owners of
152:40
the lot
152:41
could uh run them uh profitably we did
152:45
put out a call saying if enough people
152:48
came forward
152:49
uh willing to pay that what it costs the
152:51
city that we would
152:52
possibly re look at it but uh it didn't
152:55
happen
152:56
we didn't we had a few people come
152:58
forward but nowhere near enough
153:00
uh that would have filled the spots
153:04
okay thanks for your time okay
153:09
and who's next dave or lester all right
153:12
welcome back
153:14
hey john um two things the transcripts
153:17
that we keep getting promised
153:19
we haven't had a regular um you know the
153:23
transcript can't read since december
153:26
and we haven't had a transcript for over
153:28
a year
153:29
the the ones we can read um and the law
153:33
does require
153:34
him doesn't give a a time it says
153:36
reasonable
153:38
and uh no idea what's happening with
153:41
that
153:42
i keep bringing it up but we don't seem
153:44
to
153:45
i don't know if dave if that's a clerk
153:47
issue you know the only ones we've
153:49
generated were the ones out of uh out of
153:52
that that we generate out of youtube um
153:54
the
153:55
requirement for it there's no set
153:58
requirement on the transcripts
154:00
um every village in every city around
154:02
the state has been doing different
154:03
things
154:04
from um just using either the zoom or
154:07
the
154:07
um the other the um
154:10
youtube transcripts to some of hired
154:13
stenographers but that's again that
154:14
would be an expense
154:16
um we do provide proceedings we do
154:19
provide leave the recordings up
154:21
and we do provide minutes for for all
154:23
the meetings plus the agendas
154:25
the law requires a transcript yep it
154:29
doesn't it doesn't say what type of
154:30
transcript it's right
154:31
transform the youtube ones
154:34
since december uh the rest
154:38
yeah the rest of them will be put up uh
154:39
this week
154:41
okay and the other thing john you had
154:43
said at the
154:44
uh work session the other day that uh
154:47
you know the five dollars
154:48
more that we would charge to the firemen
154:52
and the veterans and the seniors
154:55
if we charge five dollars more we'd
154:57
bring in an extra 50 or 60 000.
155:00
um how many passes do we actually sell
155:03
do you know uh well i had that in front
155:07
of me last week i don't have it in front
155:08
of me
155:09
uh this time um
155:13
sorry roy what uh of which specific type
155:15
of passes are you referring to
155:17
john was talking about this senior it
155:19
was the seasonal passes that we charge
155:22
like fifteen dollars
155:24
for i think it's veterans seniors
155:27
um there was a few categories
155:30
um and uh there was enough of them
155:35
yeah john i think the if roy is talking
155:38
about
155:39
military the 2019 total i have in front
155:42
of me i don't know if that's what
155:44
what he's looking for no i
155:47
i you know when you said 50 or 60 000
155:50
that means that we'd be selling like 12
155:52
and a half thousand of those
155:54
passes which seemed like an awful big
155:56
number
155:57
yeah rory i have this i pulled this
156:00
spreadsheet up on my other screen and in
156:02
2019 we sold 1691
156:07
military passes and in 2020 we sold 937.
156:12
no no but it's also the seniors and all
156:15
the 15
156:16
passes is what we're talking about not
156:18
the daily passes the 15
156:20
seasonal passes yeah uh 15
156:24
seasons like access 769 military 1691
156:29
um then you have resident senior
156:33
5 350. those were the
156:37
those were the ones that were quoted at
156:39
the fifteen dollar
156:40
price particular price price okay
156:44
all right so we're talking we're talking
156:46
about eight thousand
156:48
eight thousand right right roughly 8 000
156:50
and change
156:51
okay all right thank you okay
156:57
all right uh who's next dave
157:01
uh next is william depper all right
157:07
good sir hi excuse me i'm sorry i'm
157:10
talking to a doctor right now
157:12
i'm just asking if the city of long
157:14
beach would allow myself
157:16
and a sales representative from hf
157:19
pharmacy
157:21
to hold an hiv testing event here
157:24
hopefully in a high traffic area like at
157:27
the train station or the bus
157:28
terminal um they're going to
157:32
fund the whole event and they're also
157:35
going to get project safety net involved
157:38
too
157:38
who does outreach in the communities i
157:41
mentioned that earlier
157:44
and i feel that doing this testing can
157:47
draw more attention to ending this
157:49
epidemic that i've been living with
157:52
for almost 40 years as well as bring
157:55
possible
157:56
funding or monies into long beach
157:59
with the coven 19 affecting every
158:02
community
158:03
especially in the low coming um
158:06
in areas um you know people of color and
158:10
the hispanic community
158:12
um i believe um it would
158:16
really benefit
158:20
hey william just hold on one second
158:23
sure of course i attend the national
158:25
conference on aids
158:27
i've gone to dc albany
158:31
uh canada last year i was supposed to go
158:34
to san juan to speak
158:37
but uh because of the pandemic it was
158:40
cancelled
158:41
so i'm hoping that they'll make
158:44
nice donations too to like places like
158:47
the mlk
158:48
center and
158:52
hopefully um get programs going there
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but um on the other note
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ahf and project safety net has gone to
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the mlk center and nobody's there
159:05
to answer the door so i agree with
159:07
monique
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all right i'll leave it at that because
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i don't want to start any arguments on
159:12
here
159:13
but for the police commissioner will you
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be doing anything
159:17
about the cars with dark tinted windows
159:20
because
159:20
two of them followed me home a couple of
159:22
nights
159:23
and i can't even see the person in the
159:25
car because the windows are
159:28
are much darker years ago a police
159:30
officer made me
159:31
rip it off right in front of him before
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i could even drive
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or he was going to impound my car
159:39
i'd like to share the grand emails i
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received from the united way of long
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island each and every week that has
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many resources in it and available to
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our community
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especially the north park section
159:54
also will you be hiring any cops who are
159:57
in the lgbt family because if you want
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you know negotiations between the
160:04
community
160:05
and the we need everybody we need
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somebody from who's asian somebody who's
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black
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somebody who's um you know what i'm
160:15
saying white
160:17
uh that's also really about it
160:21
so thank you for listening so
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commissioner walsh you want to go first
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on your end and i'll i'll hit the other
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side
160:28
and so i mean as far as the tinted
160:30
windows goes we actually do tinted
160:32
window enforcement as we come across it
160:34
uh if an officer would have seen that
160:36
car i'm sure that that
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motorist would have been pulled over if
160:40
he wasn't
160:41
going somewhere else i mean our focus is
160:43
to do
160:44
exactly that as we see vehicle and
160:46
traffic law violations
160:48
on the street where our enforcement
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efforts have
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gone up dramatically over the last month
160:54
month and a half or so
160:56
uh since so we're really focusing on
160:58
that here
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we're trying to create an environment
161:01
and an understanding throughout the city
161:03
where people can't just
161:04
uh come down to the city of long beach
161:06
or even live in the city of long beach
161:08
and not obey the rules and regulations
161:10
that really affect the quality of life
161:12
which is basically what you're referring
161:14
to
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uh there um i i don't remember all of
161:18
the compound questions that you have mr
161:20
mr douglas so if you could just tell me
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the other i think it was about
161:24
hiring lbgt yeah the hiring the hiring
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uh stuff that we have we give out civil
161:30
service exams part of the reform plan
161:33
that we put in place is to do a much
161:35
more dramatic
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um uh and focused attention
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in our recruitment efforts uh through
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houses of worship through college
161:43
campuses through
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fraternal organizations to try and uh uh
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attract more um
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more minority candidates
161:55
we do have an asian member we do have
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african-american members of the
161:58
department
161:59
we have plenty of white members of the
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department we have
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a much greater representation of female
162:04
officers on our department
162:06
and we have most recently hired
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a member of the lgbtq
162:14
community to the department
162:18
so we are making great strides in these
162:21
regards
162:22
i'm a firm believer in trying to get
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our department to be as reflective as we
162:28
can of society today
162:30
and we'll be doing everything we can to
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drive that
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uh message out and to say that we are
162:36
looking to
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hire and encourage people of all
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persuasions to take our exam
162:42
and become long beach police officers
162:45
okay and also boys from the cars too
162:49
what's that noise from the cars too
162:53
what what what do you mean in reference
162:55
stereos or their mufflers
162:57
are like uh you know many people warm
163:00
their cars up in the morning and you
163:02
hear like
163:02
broom you know it's
163:05
annoying you have a particular thing
163:07
that's happening while you're at home
163:09
feel free to give us a call we'll come
163:11
down and we'll take a listen if somebody
163:13
does not have a muffler on their car
163:15
uh they'll be summonsed for it that is a
163:17
threat uh
163:18
section of 375 in the vehicle and
163:20
traffic or that we'd be happy when force
163:23
loud music and things like that and that
163:25
nature unreasonable noise
163:28
we have written those summonses um i'm
163:31
not
163:31
i'm not saying that the officers do it
163:34
every time
163:35
because there is uh and are many things
163:38
that
163:39
sometimes it looks like we're not doing
163:40
something but we actually are doing
163:42
something
163:43
um so yes i don't particularly feel like
163:46
we should be uh
163:46
able to drive around the city with the
163:48
music blasting and interfering with
163:50
other people's
163:51
right to enjoy a more peaceful and
163:53
tranquil environment around them
163:55
so i hear you in that regard and i will
163:58
uh
163:58
there are other members of the
163:59
department listening in right now
164:01
including the executive officer and one
164:03
of our lieutenants
164:04
they're hearing what i'm saying we're
164:06
going to focus on what you're saying
164:08
uh as we see it and william just
164:12
just william just just on the other
164:14
fronts it's john mcnally we've we've
164:16
spoken a
164:17
at least a handful of times um
164:20
you know i i would reach out to me in
164:22
terms of if you've got a non-profit
164:24
partner where you want to set up
164:26
you know an event um or some sort of
164:29
distribution or testing
164:30
or talking or what what have you point
164:34
um you know we we have an events
164:36
department that
164:38
often if you're working with a hospital
164:40
or a nonprofit will
164:42
will waive the fees um if
164:45
you know if if the event is considered
164:47
in the public interest
164:49
um which you know generally speaking
164:52
what you're talking about would seem to
164:54
fall within that category
164:56
so you know if you've got that that
164:58
partner
164:59
you know available reach out to me i'll
165:01
connect you to our events department
165:03
um you know and they can set you up with
165:05
a space the city with that non-profit
165:08
um to carry out the kind of good work
165:10
that that you're talking about that you
165:12
envision happening so i mean that that's
165:14
absolutely doable william
165:16
well great thank you so much you bet
165:18
we'll talk to you soon
165:20
all right thank you all right dave uh
165:23
anyone else
165:24
yes james hodge okay
165:28
james god thank you again wanted to come
165:31
to you
165:32
uh i just wanted to thank uh
165:35
commissioner walsh uh as we
165:38
continue to uh look to
165:42
work on the executive order 203 and we
165:45
don't need the executive order to
165:47
understand and recognize
165:49
the what's going on with
165:52
communities of color and the police
165:54
department uh
165:56
it's a continued work uh it's a lot of
165:59
people
166:00
may not understand if they don't know
166:02
particular situations
166:04
that have happened in long beach i'm
166:05
someone that it has happened to me
166:08
first with being assaulted by
166:11
uh two officers in the city of long
166:14
beach which they still work for the city
166:16
of long beach
166:17
uh and i believe i would think that i
166:20
would not be the only one
166:21
because most times people that have done
166:24
something one time they have done it
166:26
many other times as we've seen with this
166:29
office on trial now
166:31
uh the work that he's talking about he
166:33
identifies he says we have a problem we
166:35
need to fix it
166:36
so i commend you in that regard
166:37
commissioner walsh it's the work and the
166:39
action that will take place
166:41
as we continue working together and
166:43
looking to see how we
166:45
do that meaningful work so again i i
166:48
thank you
166:48
for recognizing it and saying it and
166:50
admitting it and that's part of it
166:53
that sometimes we don't want to
166:54
recognize where there are issues that we
166:56
need to fix
166:58
uh and and that's one area we definitely
167:00
need to fix
167:01
uh and it's the system you know
167:04
systematic and institutional racism
167:06
exists and uh we must
167:10
again rid ourselves of it and how do we
167:12
do that not just by talking about it
167:14
but putting different policies and
167:15
changing different systems
167:17
uh also back to community development
167:22
again the city's budget again
167:26
city's community development budget the
167:29
money that the city gets
167:30
from the stop and shop uh grant which is
167:34
i believe over a hundred thousand
167:36
dollars
167:37
i think that when we talk about uh
167:39
communities and how we help communities
167:41
they should be in the budget that's how
167:43
you see
167:44
some change in systematic and
167:47
institutional racism
167:49
we can't just talk about these things
167:51
during election time and we can't just
167:53
talk about these things just to talk
167:55
about them but it must show
167:57
in your budgets it must show in
168:00
what you're putting money to so uh
168:03
again uh whether it's two thousand three
168:06
thousand
168:07
uh william i also say for william that
168:10
we've met plenty of times william has
168:12
done plenty of work
168:13
with the mlk center through the mlk we
168:15
met with his partners
168:17
and again funding is a major thing with
168:19
mostly all not-for-profits that's why
168:20
the city has dedicated
168:22
some money to some of the
168:23
non-for-profits that i see here because
168:25
all of them have issues
168:26
just like ours you know but again we ask
168:30
that you
168:30
again allow your policies and your
168:33
budgets to reflect
168:35
the change that we so often
168:38
speak about you know uh and so again
168:41
commissioner walsh uh thank you
168:44
for recognizing and looking to change it
168:46
and speaking about it and
168:48
talking about it again that's your time
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north park gets the city a lot of their
168:55
low to moderate income
168:56
funding a large percent and let some of
169:00
the
169:00
money go back into the largest area that
169:03
gets it money
169:04
thank you very much for your time all
169:05
right thank you james this is a quick
169:07
response uh mr hodge thank you for
169:09
uh for the compliments um
169:12
i don't live life here in the review
169:14
mirror uh i live life looking forward
169:17
and
169:17
with an optimistic look forward and um
169:20
we are going to make sure that any
169:23
mistakes of the past are cured in the
169:25
future
169:26
and you have my commitment to
169:29
doing the best we possibly can within
169:32
the law
169:33
to uh to address the needs of the north
169:35
park community and the needs of the
169:37
city in general to make us reflective of
169:39
the public
169:40
you'll also learn as the new geographic
169:44
policing model
169:44
is um rolled out as the pilot program
169:48
as we adjust it that the north park
169:50
community will be receiving
169:52
a lot more community oriented style
169:55
policing
169:56
and really and no part of this city
170:00
will see less policing they will see
170:02
more policing
170:03
more community outreach and more trust
170:06
building
170:07
than we've ever experienced before so
170:09
thank you very much
170:10
um hi um if i can add something
170:13
i wanted to talk about the community
170:15
development for years
170:17
the city has been giving out what we
170:19
consider public service funds to
170:21
non-profits
170:22
in the amount from the minimum four
170:24
thousand dollars to twenty thousand
170:25
dollars
170:26
that has been distributed
170:28
inappropriately according to nassau
170:30
county
170:31
we are only capped at fifteen percent of
170:33
what we receive in
170:34
to give out to public services martin
170:37
luther king and other nonprofits that on
170:39
this call have received those funds
170:41
what has been the problem is that when
170:42
it comes time to report the hud
170:44
funding from the community development
170:47
grant
170:48
that there is no results that have been
170:50
reported accurately meaning to be able
170:51
to identify
170:52
who's completely benefited from it we
170:54
need to move away from one person being
170:56
able to say the needs of a community
170:58
and having data to document it so that
171:00
we are providing to that 6.9 percent
171:03
who are considered low to moderate
171:05
income and that we are meeting their
171:07
needs
171:08
now james hard doesn't allow us to
171:09
forget in north park and we understand
171:11
that north park
171:12
is here but there are others in the city
171:14
that are in need as well
171:16
and how do we create that is by
171:17
identifying everybody that is in need
171:20
and providing services to them now we
171:23
provide these public services but it has
171:24
returned
171:25
it still acts on what the city is doing
171:27
so at this time the city itself can also
171:30
provide public services
171:31
and we do it based on that process and
171:34
that is going to be the change
171:36
moving forward and i think we need to
171:39
think about that now
171:40
nonprofits have their own sustainability
171:43
and that means that their budgets
171:44
their operations have to be aligned
171:46
where they can provide a service because
171:48
they're saying they're meeting the needs
171:49
too
171:50
the only way to do this is not to
171:52
compete but to collaborate
171:54
and to identify the needs and from my
171:57
experience not one person
171:58
not one organization can identify the
172:01
needs of a community
172:02
so there's a way and there's a platform
172:04
that has been created for people to
172:05
voice it
172:06
it's through meetings it is through
172:08
talking and it's to get into data so i
172:10
urge everyone to complete the community
172:11
needs assessment
172:12
to be active to voice their needs
172:15
because funds are aligned but it's not
172:17
just to one community yes north park
172:19
is very crucial i applied to be there i
172:21
worked there and i understand that
172:23
however we need to move forward with
172:24
that mindset that is all access all
172:26
so i james i understand your concerns
172:28
and the money that you're talking about
172:29
is called urban development
172:31
it is not called community development
172:33
so first we need to understand the
172:34
terminology so that we're saying the
172:36
right thing
172:36
and not wait to when there's a public
172:38
platform to communicate
172:40
because i've been here i've communicated
172:42
now here we're seeing your accent
172:43
and you're saying funds but we are still
172:45
not even understanding what process is
172:47
and we don't even have a lease so these
172:49
are things that we're saying was process
172:52
and if you have any further you can
172:53
reach out to me and let's not wait to
172:55
this public forum
172:56
to communicate that okay
173:00
so uh let's move on we just
173:03
this is about just helping the getting
173:05
the services to the people that need it
173:07
so that's that's
173:08
that's what we should all be working
173:09
towards so uh
173:11
all right dave that was the last hand
173:15
okay so uh all right everyone thanks for
173:18
joining us
173:20
and uh liz you lost on the uh
173:23
the over under you thought we were going
173:25
to go past 10. no i said 10.
173:28
and uh did she say
173:32
10. so all right but everyone thanks for
173:36
joining us
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and we will we will see you